Sam,
Outlook is a bit different... Outlook on its own only allows you to
create and read emails using Microsoft Word. They give you the ability
while reading an email to send it to IE and read it using IE instead of
Word but normally you are just using Word. Word is great but with
complicated html emails it can be difficult to read it. So we created
an app called Outlook Enhance. One of the features of this app is to
cause any email you are reading (not creating, but reading) to
automatically be virtualized using IE without actually running in IE
itself. So this means you are in browse mode to read it and can easily
read the most complicated html email with ease. When you go into an
application such as IE or Firefox or a virtualized email in Outlook you
are thrown into browse mode by default, typically...there are ways this
would be disabled, for example if you go to google.com focus is in an
edit and it wouldn't be nice if you were in browse mode because you
wouldn't be able to type in the edit so browse mode is disabled by
default, but even this can be disable (lot of flexibility). But
normally you are in browse mode and you are correct, you don't hear the
tones or the words "browse on" because this is expected normal behavior.
As for not being able to go back into browse mode, my only explanation
is focus wasn't on the email any longer...browse mode is only allowed in
windows which are using IE or Firefox to render the information.
But again, this is all exactly as it was with Window-Eyes 8.x. 9.0 beta
1 has not change how any of this behaves (regarding if you are in browse
mode or when you go out, etc.). So are you saying this is more
complicated than it was? I'm not following how any of this is different
unless you are brand new to using Window-Eyes.
Doug
On 11/24/2014 7:44 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:
Hi Doug,
Let’s take this for example:
When in outlook reading an email … like the one you just sent me.
I use to be in a browse buffer … that is no more in the beta right?
So, I am reading your message and I don’t know if I am in the browse
mode or not.
So, I press ctrl-alt-a and it says browse mode off … great that way I
can say yes I was in browse mode.
But, then when I try to press ctrl-alt a again to turn it back on it
says browse mode is not available.
Any way to turn it back on?
I also press enter to load the message and don’t get the speech and or
the tones to let me know I have entered browse mode.
So, either I am in browse mode at the list of messages and or it’s not
notifying me that I have entered browse mode when I am in a message.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Sam
*From:*Doug Geoffray [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 5:40 PM
*To:* [email protected]; [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: betabugs
Sam,
This has not changed from the past...how did you know with Window-Eyes
8.4? There is a tone and/or speech that tells you if you are in or
out of browse mode. Meaning if you go in you can hear a tone and or
"browse on". If it turns off you'll hear a different tone and/or
"browse off". Obviously browse mode is only available for certain
applications...so if you are in Microsoft Word you know browse mode
isn't even available so therefor it is off.
You can also just toggle browse mode by pressing control-shift-A. Or
you can press the speak summary hotkey (control-shift-s). If you hear
"25 links, 5 headings, blah" you are in browse mode.
Doug
On 11/24/2014 7:32 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:
Got it, thank you sir,
Last question:
How do we know when we are and are not in browse mode?
Thanks,
Sam
*From:*Doug Geoffray [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 5:31 PM
*To:* [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: betabugs
While in browse mode f8 is the only way. Outside of browse mode
you can do whatever you were previously able to do.
Doug
On 11/24/2014 7:25 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:
Understood, so does the shift/arrow keys work in other places
or is f8 now the only way to select text?
Sam
*From:*Doug Geoffray [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 5:23 PM
*To:* [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: betabugs
Sam,
Currently f8 is the only way to select data while in browse
mode. Simply move to the beginning of the data you want and
press f8. Move to the other end of the data and hit f8 again
followed by enter. Everything in between your points will be
copied into the clipboard.
Doug
On 11/24/2014 7:02 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:
For me it’s much faster and much better response so far.
But, when you use the normal way to highlight text shift
arrows it doesn’t seem to work.
Sam
*From:*Rob Hudson [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 4:56 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* betabugs
So far, the beta is much slower than 8.4 was
. Every link in firefox reports as visited
Mouse still does not work in Firefox.
The wineyes find command took about three seconds to
activate.
Down arrowing through a web page gives about a second
delay between pressing the key and reading the text.
That's just initial impressions so far.
If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only.
If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to
GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so
the entire list will receive it.
GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage
your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
