Braille is awesome for picking up things like spacing and misspellings. But it 
still only shows you what the screen reader sends to it, so you're not going to 
get accurate attribute changes unless the screen reader can track them.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Vaughan Dodd
  To: 'Van Lant, Robin' ; 'gwi'
  Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 4:40 PM
  Subject: RE: advice sought - just had another horribly embarrassing issue at 
work


  Hi Robert.



  I also use the attribute changes hot key, (Windows-A by edfault) when 
proofreading.  But lately, I have been wondering just how accurate Window-eyes 
is in this regard.  I also make frequent use of insert-V (verbosity) when 
proofreading.



  I hope the following is not seen as judgemental, but if you have braille 
skills, hook up a braille display as it is great for proofreading.  A 
combination of speech and braille can make proofreading slow, but doubt about 
specific document details is reduced if you can have th3e combination.



  I do understand the essential requirement to meet formatting standards, and 
documents are becoming more and more complex, so good luck for the future.





  Vaughan.







  From: Van Lant, Robin [mailto:[email protected]]
  Sent: Tuesday, 16 December 2014 11:32 a.m.
  To: gwi
  Subject: RE: advice sought - just had another horribly embarrassing issue at 
work



  Rod,

  I've definitely started using that Notepad trick for some things.  Trick here 
was that I didn't even think to use it because I didn't realize there was 
formatting to remove.  Someone else suggested offline to me to use the key 
combo to remove all formatting from my Word document.  These nominations had a 
lot of bulleting in them already, so I think that is why I didn't want to go so 
drastic.  As it turns out, I discovered that one of the people who submitted a 
nomination to me had used track changes.  He told me today he thought he'd sent 
me a version with that removed, but I wonder if he was just looking at his copy 
in Final with no mark up and accidentally sent me the edits.  Either way, I 
suddenly remembered the alt [ key combo to move to each reviewing comment and 
that's is how I figured out that someone had some inserted text that I hadn't 
noticed before I sent it out last week.  I guess I need to get in the habit of 
either doing that or accepting all changes before I sent out
  a document I've compiled from others.



  Someone also suggested I try the proofreading app.  I'll look into that.  
Control E is useful if you know where to look, but I can't go word for word 
through a document doing that to figure out if someone included a format I 
don't want.



  Thanks all for the ideas so far.





  From: Rod Hutton [mailto:[email protected]]
  Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 11:55 AM
  To: Van Lant, Robin; 'gwi'
  Subject: RE: advice sought - just had another horribly embarrassing issue at 
work



  Hi Robin,



  I was thinking that you could have someone sighted send you an email with 
some kind of coloured formatting.

  Then, you could copy and paste it into Notepad.

  Then, you could select the whole Notepad contents, copy and paste it into a 
new email, and send it back to that sighted person and they would know if any 
of the formatting remained.

  I think it would be gone, unless I'm seriously mistaken, since Notepad only 
deals with plain text.



  Hth,



  Rod



  From: Van Lant, Robin [mailto:[email protected]]
  Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:18 PM
  To: gwi
  Subject: advice sought - just had another horribly embarrassing issue at work



  Guys,

  I often work on documents for executives at our company.  Last week I needed 
to send everyone a compilation of nominations they'd sent in.  I copied some 
from Word documents and most from Outlook messages sent to me.  I placed them 
into a Word 2010 format   Before I sent them, I selected all the text and 
changed the font to black, which I don't find easy in Word and would love any 
advice there, and also removed all highlighting, because I know one manager had 
highlighted the nominee's names.



  Today, I got a reply from one of the execs saying that he was very 
disappointed that his nomination was red-lined.  I honestly don't know how that 
happened.  I don't know if it's a track changes thing, which I had not turned 
on, or some other thing.



  I often have a coworker check the formatting before I sent, but it was late 
on Friday and I wanted to get it out.  I am so dreadfully embarrassed here and 
discouraged that I cannot send out documents on my own without a proofer for 
these kinds of visual things.



  Advice please from my Word experts!



  Using WE 8.4 on Win 7 with Office 2010.





  Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager

  Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance

  720-304-1060 | [email protected]





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