I believe the correct term is actually MouseOver, if it's the same thing
as audible has, because the mouse has to be placed in a specific spot to
get more information. Not sure where this term FlyOver came from.
On 1/19/2015 10:47 PM, Andre wrote:
What’s a flyover, and how can you tell or identify that there are
flyovers on a page? I’m asking because this could be the case with a
site I visit a lot called freeconferencecalling.com. When I try to
find the recordings link or tab that used to read in WE 8.4 under ie8,
I’m an unsuccessful in getting WE to tell me anything about that link
even though I change WE settings for the most part. I did notice
though when I turn speak tooltips on, sometimes I can get it to read
the long description of the link only after I escape out of the WE
control panel.
*From:*Chris [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2015 8:19 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Audible site changes are indeed caused by Window Eyes 9 and
not by changes by Audible
After discussing this issue, the one about the mouse flyover no longer
appearing when one browses a list of Audible books, the flyover that
appeared as a heading to users of Window Eyes and that included
information such as a portion of the publisher’s summary for books,
thus making the lists easy to navigate and made it so one could get an
idea of book plots without having to open the page for each and every
book, I figured that I would have to appeal to Audible since I was
assured that the changes were in the Audible site and not because of
any changes in Window eyes 9. I was told that the issue had reached
the limits of Window eyes technical support since it was an Audible
issue. I believed this to be true and since I can’t afford any
advanced support beyond that which I paid for with my SMAs, I sent in
a request to Audible that the flyovers be restored. I got a response
that they had not made any major changes that removed the flyovers.
So, I got someone who is still using Window Eyes 8.4 to go to audible
and check it out. The results of this trip were flyovers everywhere
they were expected and the ability to navigate by heading due to the
presence of the flyovers.
So, the issue is, indeed something to do with a change in Window Eyes.
These objects are still there on the page, Window Eyes 9 is just not
displaying them. I have not been able to get them to appear by
changing settings with Window eyes 9. As this is an issue of a loss of
accessibility in a page previously displayed correctly by Window eyes.
I hope that AI Squared might investigate and try to find a way to
return the accessibility of this site with Window eyes to its previous
level. Audible isn’t perfect and since they are owned by Amazon, I
have doubts that what issues existed with the last few versions of
window eyes are likely to be addressed by them any time soon. But
those issues were surmountable and one of the things that made using
the site much easier was those flyovers. Currently with Window eyes 9,
one has to navigate through lists of books by tabbing through links or
by navigating by lists. The llists method is made more clumsy by a
problem requiring users to arrow down past the links of the names of a
book’s author and narrator because clicking on “l” before that point
will return one to the top of that book’s listing and on top of that,
if the book is part of a series, the area with the link to the series
page is also a list. one must click through. Window Eyes also doesn’t
read much information when one navigates through the book listings and
when it does read links, it often reads the URL instead of the link
text. Then, since there isn’t any plot information in the listings,
one has to go into the page of each book one is interested in
considering to read the publisher’s summary and then must return to
the list to continue through the rest of the titles.
None of this makes the page inaccessible, but Window eyes 9 is a major
improvement on so many things and it shouldn’t take a step backwards
on a site that is used by so many blind consumers. As I typed this,
the person who checked the Audible site out for me went and tried with
NVDA and the flyover headings were there with it as well, so it is
definitely doable to get them to display.
Regards,
Chris
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