Mouseover isn't the correct term, rather it is the more common and current
term. Flyover or mouse flyover have been used for a long time. Here is a
link to a tutorial that discusses such objects. If you do a search for mouse
flyover, and other combinations of words including mouse, flyover and
tooltip, you can find other tutorials as well as forum discussions and other
such discussions that include the term. It might not be as common as it used
to be, but it is, indeed, a valid term.
http://web.utk.edu/sas/OnlineTutor/1.2/en/60476/m11/m11_31.htm
Regards,
chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 9:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Audible site changes are indeed caused by Window Eyes 9 and not
by changes by Audible
I believe the correct term is actually MouseOver, if it's the same thing
as audible has, because the mouse has to be placed in a specific spot to
get more information. Not sure where this term FlyOver came from.
On 1/19/2015 10:47 PM, Andre wrote:
What’s a flyover, and how can you tell or identify that there are flyovers
on a page? I’m asking because this could be the case with a site I visit a
lot called freeconferencecalling.com. When I try to find the recordings
link or tab that used to read in WE 8.4 under ie8, I’m an unsuccessful in
getting WE to tell me anything about that link even though I change WE
settings for the most part. I did notice though when I turn speak tooltips
on, sometimes I can get it to read the long description of the link only
after I escape out of the WE control panel.
*From:*Chris [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2015 8:19 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Audible site changes are indeed caused by Window Eyes 9 and not
by changes by Audible
After discussing this issue, the one about the mouse flyover no longer
appearing when one browses a list of Audible books, the flyover that
appeared as a heading to users of Window Eyes and that included
information such as a portion of the publisher’s summary for books, thus
making the lists easy to navigate and made it so one could get an idea of
book plots without having to open the page for each and every book, I
figured that I would have to appeal to Audible since I was assured that
the changes were in the Audible site and not because of any changes in
Window eyes 9. I was told that the issue had reached the limits of Window
eyes technical support since it was an Audible issue. I believed this to
be true and since I can’t afford any advanced support beyond that which I
paid for with my SMAs, I sent in a request to Audible that the flyovers be
restored. I got a response that they had not made any major changes that
removed the flyovers. So, I got someone who is still using Window Eyes 8.4
to go to audible and check it out. The results of this trip were flyovers
everywhere they were expected and the ability to navigate by heading due
to the presence of the flyovers.
So, the issue is, indeed something to do with a change in Window Eyes.
These objects are still there on the page, Window Eyes 9 is just not
displaying them. I have not been able to get them to appear by changing
settings with Window eyes 9. As this is an issue of a loss of
accessibility in a page previously displayed correctly by Window eyes. I
hope that AI Squared might investigate and try to find a way to return the
accessibility of this site with Window eyes to its previous level. Audible
isn’t perfect and since they are owned by Amazon, I have doubts that what
issues existed with the last few versions of window eyes are likely to be
addressed by them any time soon. But those issues were surmountable and
one of the things that made using the site much easier was those flyovers.
Currently with Window eyes 9, one has to navigate through lists of books
by tabbing through links or by navigating by lists. The llists method is
made more clumsy by a problem requiring users to arrow down past the links
of the names of a book’s author and narrator because clicking on “l”
before that point will return one to the top of that book’s listing and on
top of that, if the book is part of a series, the area with the link to
the series page is also a list. one must click through. Window Eyes also
doesn’t read much information when one navigates through the book listings
and when it does read links, it often reads the URL instead of the link
text. Then, since there isn’t any plot information in the listings, one
has to go into the page of each book one is interested in considering to
read the publisher’s summary and then must return to the list to continue
through the rest of the titles.
None of this makes the page inaccessible, but Window eyes 9 is a major
improvement on so many things and it shouldn’t take a step backwards on a
site that is used by so many blind consumers. As I typed this, the person
who checked the Audible site out for me went and tried with NVDA and the
flyover headings were there with it as well, so it is definitely doable to
get them to display.
Regards,
Chris
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