Hi Alex,
I find the BS EASIER TO USE THAN THE BN.
I have both because I bought aDemo Bn to take places because I really did not 
want to carry my BS Classic with me.
The BN Clcssic I have has a lot of short cuts but I can usually figure out what 
to do with my BS Classic.
It does lock up sometimes with email but a reset works and I have never lost 
anything. It usually goes to the storage box.
Settings are easy to restore if you lose them by going to the Options Menu.
I do not know about Battery Life because I always leave my unit plugged in.
I would love to see Digital Talking Books supported.
I love the speech and I always write things in Ascii if I am going to send them 
to someone.
I also would much rather write emails in Braille.
I do not like the Computg so didn't get into email until I got this unit. My 
husband now says I am an email junkie.
This unit has opened up a whole new world for me with email and the Internet.
I find it easier to send things to people and store record.
I have a Braille Lite and got a Versabraille many years after they came out. My 
BS Classic was the first new device I have ever had besides my Perkins Brailler 
which I got in 1960.
I also find this list helpful because I am not a techie person.
Colleen Roth


----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: 2009/06/19 22:18:12
Subject: Re: [GWN] BSP: OPINIONS NEEDED

>
>
> Thank you.  I know all my questions were negative, but that is 
> the point; I hear all the praise about the unit on reviews and 
> podcasts, but never anything bad, as one would expect.  I wanted 
> the "dark side", if such a thing exists for the BSP, FROM THE 
> actual, real-life user before I go about making the switch.  I 
> have used a bn since 2002, so moving to a new unit is a huge 
> deal, plus, of course, it costs a lot.  I am not worried about 
> getting used to the intercace, since I also have used Windows 
> since 200 or so, but it seems like some things would be more 
> annothing, like having to tab a whole bunch of times just to get 
> to, say, the OKAY BUTTON.
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >From: Joe Giovanelli <[email protected]
> >To: [email protected]
> >Date sent: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:15:37 com0800
> >Subject: Re: [GWN] BSP: OPINIONS NEEDED
> 
> >Hi, Alex,
> 
> >There's no way I can reply to all of your questions.
> 
> >I don't think this unit supports video files.
> 
> 
> >It does play MP 3, Daisy, Wav and some others.
> 
> >It reads HTML PERFECTLY WELL.
> 
> >It handles forms found on the Internet very well.  There is no, 
> separate forms mode.  You are just presented with the edit box.
> 
> >The keyboard on the Braille Sense is the best keyboard I have 
> seen, and that includes your Braille Note.  I have heard about 
> only problem with the keyboard from only one person.  I've logged 
> lots of hours on the unit and it works as well as the day I got 
> it.
> 
> >The battery is easy to change.
> 
> >I have not timed how long the battery will last under varying 
> conditions.  I usually get a day's work from the unit.
> 
> >There definitely are translation problems from ASCII TO Braille 
> and vice versa and the errors are not consststent.  If I want to 
> have a document look good, I use ASCII VIA A USB KEYBOARD.
> 
> >All your questions are negative.  This unit has some definite 
> good qualities.  The word processor works well.  It does what the 
> manual says it does.  Formatting is not complete.  There isn't a 
> shortcut key for centering.
> 
> >There is a hot key for tabbing forward but you do need a 
> combination key for shift-tab.
> 
> >Forget about printing unless you happen to have a printer which 
> supports PCL 3; IT MUST BE HP COMPATIBLE.   The serial port 
> cannot be used for a printer connection.  This printing thing is 
> my biggest gripe about this unit.
> 
> >We don't see too many releases.  We won't see a release just for 
> bug fixes.  A release will fix these, but it will also contain 
> major feature additions.
> 
> 
> >I'm writing this in Braille; the e-mail will first be translated 
> into Ascii, so you may see a couple of translation errors.
> 
> >I should say that the wireless LAN WORKS VERY WELL.  I have never 
> had a drop-out.
> 
> >In general, data is not lost during a reset unless it has not 
> been saved.  All settings will be lost but if these are backed up 
> properly, they are easily restored.
> 
> >I'll let others answer your other questions.  I hope this was 
> helpful.
> 
> >Joe G.
> 
> 
> 
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Alex Hall <[email protected]
> >To: [email protected]
> >Date: Friday, Jun 19, 2009 13:44:36
> >Subject: [GWN] BSP: OPINIONS NEEDED
> 
> 
> 
> >ar Hi all,
> >ar For those of you using the Braille Sense Plus, I would like to
> >ar ask you a small favor: could you respond with all the bad things
> >ar (missing features, bugs, data corruption, and so on) that you
> >ar have found with your unit? I am closer now to being able to get
> >ar one of these to replace my BN, BUT I want to know the "real
> >ar story" behind the BSP's operation in daily life before I 
> proceed.
> >ar Note that I am a student going into either software design or 
> web
> >ar programming, I am not sure which yet, with two years of school
> >ar remaining.  I know the technical specs, but no one in my state
> >ar has one that I can look at and use first-hand; I have only your
> >ar responses and the reviews and podcasts around the Internet to
> >ar guide me.  I would like to know the following, and sorry it is
> >ar such a long list, but then again, it is a lot of money.
> >ar 1.  How annoying constantly pressing the tab and shift-tab key
> >ar combos gets?
> >ar 2.  How often can you do things with a shortcut key to avoid
> >ar tabbing five times?
> >ar 3.  What can the wordprocessor not handle?
> >ar 4.  What problems do you find when browsing the Internet?
> >ar 5.  How often does the unit lock up, resulting in a reset and
> >ar therefore a loss of data?
> >ar 6.  What problems still exist with the email program, even after
> >ar the firmware updates?
> >ar 7.  What external device compatibility issues, if any, have you
> >ar found?
> >ar 8.  Can Bluetooth do object exchange, and is it stable?
> >ar 9.  Can you browse networks?
> >ar 10.  How is printing as far as formatting, printer support, font
> >ar changes, retaining page setup (such as centered lines, line
> >ar spacing, etc)?
> >ar 11.  How is the Braille display after months of use?
> >ar 12.  Is Wifi stable, or does it often drop connections, connect
> >ar to networks it cannot actually see, you get the idea?
> >ar 13.  Can it take SDHC CARDS?
> >ar 14.  Does the DSL JACK ALWAYS WORK PROPERLY?
> >ar 15.  How is battery, with and without wifi, bluetooth, and so 
> on?
> >ar 16.  Can you turn on and off speech and braille independently?
> >ar 17.  If you came from a BN, HOW IS THE Braille display 
> scrolling?
> >ar 18.  How does it handle translation to and from grade 2?
> >ar 19.  Can one use computer braille languages other than English?
> >ar 20.  How does the LCD DISPLAY WORK IN REAL-LIFE APPLICATIONS? It
> >ar is a good concept, but is it easy to display what you want, to
> >ar turn it off, and so on?
> >ar 21.  How easy is it to buy and install a new battery?
> >ar 22.  If you are a student, what problems have you found in
> >ar classes, such as unsupported files, trouble with emails, and the
> >ar like?
> >ar 23.  For GWM STAFF: ANY PLANS TO INCORPORATE Nemeth, UEB, OR
> >ar other useful codes?
> >ar 24.  What media file size cannot be played? If you play a 150mb
> >ar DVS MOVIE, FOR EXAMPLE, WILL IT WORK / WILL THE SYSTEM BOG DOWN
> >ar any?
> >ar 25.  How does the unit react to high heat and/or humidity? Cold?
> >ar 26.  How are new lines represented? On the BN, THEY CAN BE A ONE
> >ar or two cell intentation on the display, or an ed sign followed 
> by
> >ar a people.  I always set it to indent one cell, since there is no 
> other
> >ar reason for the display to ever indent in text, so any indent is 
> a
> >ar new line and it feels more like a Brailled document and makes
> >ar more sense, to me at least.
> >ar 27.  Is there a limit to the number attachments in an email? The
> >ar BN WILL NOT SEND MORE THAN 7, I believe.
> >ar 28.  Technical: what Javascript does the unit support? For
> >ar example, the BN SUPPORTS ONLOAD, ONUNLOAD, AND ONCLICK, BUT NOT
> >ar onchange, onfocus, onkeypress, and the rest.
> >ar 29.  How is filling out fields on the BSP?
> >ar 30.  Have you run into issues where keys would stick or in any
> >ar other way not work?
> >ar 31.  What version of JS DOES THE BROWSER HAVE? Will it support
> >ar dhtml (the innerHTML METHOD ON OBJECTS)?
> >ar 32.  Overall, how do you like your unit for what you do with it?
> >ar Please tell me anything you do not like about the unit, even if 
> I
> >ar did not cover it?
> >ar You can reply off-list to avoid Raul's or Jeremy's wrath (JK
> >ar guys).  Thanks in advance for any responses.
> 
> >ar Have a great day,
> >ar Alex

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