Hi, Joe here.

You mentioned tabbing in the way it's often necessary with Windows.  There is a 
bit of that, but not nearly the amount that you might do in some dialog boxes.


In the "options" dialog, it consists of a number of things which you can 
change.  These are activated by moving through them with the space key and 
either dot 4 or dot 1 just as is done with other notetakers.  You tab once and 
are asked to confirm your choices.  Pressing "enter" does that.

That's how it works with most menus.

Joe G.
rather


----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, Jun 19, 2009 17:49:09
Subject: Re: [GWN] BSP: opinions needed

>
>
> I think the bsp is better because it seems to lock up less 
> online, it has 8gb of internal storage compared to the bn's 
> 120mb, it has MSN Messenger, the company supports their products 
> much better, it has built-in wifi, I do not have to send my unit 
> back for several weeks just to get a new battery, it has an lcd 
> display so sighted partners and teachers can see what I am doing 
> without me emailing them or using Keyview, it has a mode that 
> lets it act as a mass storage device for a pc, so I do not have 
> to fight with Active Sync just to put some files on it from my 
> pc, it has media keys...  I could go on, but you get the idea.
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >From: estin <[email protected]
> >To: [email protected]
> >Date sent: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:14:36 +1200
> >Subject: Re: [GWN] BSP: opinions needed
> 
> >Alex This is Estin what made you decide to change units.
> >Also how much is a braille sense plus now.
> 
> >ar ----- Original Message -----
> >arFrom: Alex Hall <[email protected]
> >arTo: [email protected]
> >arDate sent: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:25:56 com0400
> >arSubject: Re: [GWN] BSP: opinions needed
> 
> >arThank you.  I know all my questions were negative, but that is
> >arthe point; I hear all the praise about the unit on reviews and
> >arpodcasts, but never anything bad, as one would expect.  I wanted
> >arthe "dark side", if such a thing exists for the BSP, from the
> >aractual, real-life user before I go about making the switch.  I
> >arhave used a bn since 2002, so moving to a new unit is a huge
> >ardeal, plus, of course, it costs a lot.  I am not worried about
> >argetting used to the intercace, since I also have used Windows
> >arsince 200 or so, but it seems like some things would be more
> >arannothing, like having to tab a whole bunch of times just to get
> >arto, say, the OKAY button.
> 
> >arHave a great day,
> >arAlex
> 
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: Joe Giovanelli <[email protected]
> >>>To: [email protected]
> >>>Date sent: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:15:37 com0800
> >>>Subject: Re: [GWN] BSP: opinions needed
> 
> >>>Hi, Alex,
> 
> >>>There's no way I can reply to all of your questions.
> 
> >>>I don't think this unit supports video files.
> 
> 
> >>>It does play MP 3, Daisy, Wav and some others.
> 
> >>>It reads HTML perfectly well.
> 
> >>>It handles forms found on the Internet very well.  There is no,
> >arseparate forms mode.  You are just presented with the edit box.
> 
> >>>The keyboard on the Braille Sense is the best keyboard I have
> >arseen, and that includes your Braille Note.  I have heard about
> >aronly problem with the keyboard from only one person.  I've logged
> >arlots of hours on the unit and it works as well as the day I got
> >arit.
> 
> >>>The battery is easy to change.
> 
> >>>I have not timed how long the battery will last under varying
> >arconditions.  I usually get a day's work from the unit.
> 
> >>>There definitely are translation problems from ASCII to Braille
> >arand vice versa and the errors are not consststent.  If I want to
> >arhave a document look good, I use ASCII via a USB keyboard.
> 
> >>>All your questions are negative.  This unit has some definite
> >argood qualities.  The word processor works well.  It does what the
> >armanual says it does.  Formatting is not complete.  There isn't a
> >arshortcut key for centering.
> 
> >>>There is a hot key for tabbing forward but you do need a
> >arcombination key for shift-tab.
> 
> >>>Forget about printing unless you happen to have a printer which
> >arsupports PCL 3; it must be HP compatible.   The serial port
> >arcannot be used for a printer connection.  This printing thing is
> >army biggest gripe about this unit.
> 
> >>>We don't see too many releases.  We won't see a release just for
> >arbug fixes.  A release will fix these, but it will also contain
> >armajor feature additions.
> 
> 
> >>>I'm writing this in Braille; the e-mail will first be translated
> >arinto Ascii, so you may see a couple of translation errors.
> 
> >>>I should say that the wireless LAN works very well.  I have never
> >arhad a drop-out.
> 
> >>>In general, data is not lost during a reset unless it has not
> >arbeen saved.  All settings will be lost but if these are backed up
> >arproperly, they are easily restored.
> 
> >>>I'll let others answer your other questions.  I hope this was
> >arhelpful.
> 
> >>>Joe G.
> 
> 
> 
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: Alex Hall <[email protected]
> >>>To: [email protected]
> >>>Date: Friday, Jun 19, 2009 13:44:36
> >>>Subject: [GWN] BSP: opinions needed
> 
> 
> 
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>> For those of you using the Braille Sense Plus, I would like to
> >>>> ask you a small favor: could you respond with all the bad things
> >>>> (missing features, bugs, data corruption, and so on) that you
> >>>> have found with your unit? I am closer now to being able to get
> >>>> one of these to replace my BN, but I want to know the "real
> >>>> story" behind the BSP's operation in daily life before I
> >arproceed.
> >>>> Note that I am a student going into either software design or
> >arweb
> >>>> programming, I am not sure which yet, with two years of school
> >>>> remaining.  I know the technical specs, but no one in my state
> >>>> has one that I can look at and use first-hand; I have only your
> >>>> responses and the reviews and podcasts around the Internet to
> >>>> guide me.  I would like to know the following, and sorry it is
> >>>> such a long list, but then again, it is a lot of money.
> >>>> 1.  How annoying constantly pressing the tab and shift-tab key
> >>>> combos gets?
> >>>> 2.  How often can you do things with a shortcut key to avoid
> >>>> tabbing five times?
> >>>> 3.  What can the wordprocessor not handle?
> >>>> 4.  What problems do you find when browsing the Internet?
> >>>> 5.  How often does the unit lock up, resulting in a reset and
> >>>> therefore a loss of data?
> >>>> 6.  What problems still exist with the email program, even after
> >>>> the firmware updates?
> >>>> 7.  What external device compatibility issues, if any, have you
> >>>> found?
> >>>> 8.  Can Bluetooth do object exchange, and is it stable?
> >>>> 9.  Can you browse networks?
> >>>> 10.  How is printing as far as formatting, printer support, font
> >>>> changes, retaining page setup (such as centered lines, line
> >>>> spacing, etc)?
> >>>> 11.  How is the Braille display after months of use?
> >>>> 12.  Is Wifi stable, or does it often drop connections, connect
> >>>> to networks it cannot actually see, you get the idea?
> >>>> 13.  Can it take SDHC cards?
> >>>> 14.  Does the DSL jack always work properly?
> >>>> 15.  How is battery, with and without wifi, bluetooth, and so
> >aron?
> >>>> 16.  Can you turn on and off speech and braille independently?
> >>>> 17.  If you came from a BN, how is the Braille display
> >arscrolling?
> >>>> 18.  How does it handle translation to and from grade 2?
> >>>> 19.  Can one use computer braille languages other than English?
> >>>> 20.  How does the LCD display work in real-life applications? It
> >>>> is a good concept, but is it easy to display what you want, to
> >>>> turn it off, and so on?
> >>>> 21.  How easy is it to buy and install a new battery?
> >>>> 22.  If you are a student, what problems have you found in
> >>>> classes, such as unsupported files, trouble with emails, and the
> >>>> like?
> >>>> 23.  For GWM staff: any plans to incorporate Nemeth, UEB, or
> >>>> other useful codes?
> >>>> 24.  What media file size cannot be played? If you play a 150mb
> >>>> DVS movie, for example, will it work / will the system bog down
> >>>> any?
> >>>> 25.  How does the unit react to high heat and/or humidity? Cold?
> >>>> 26.  How are new lines represented? On the BN, they can be a one
> >>>> or two cell intentation on the display, or an ed sign followed
> >arby
> >>>> a people.  I always set it to indent one cell, since there is no
> >arother
> >>>> reason for the display to ever indent in text, so any indent is
> >ara
> >>>> new line and it feels more like a Brailled document and makes
> >>>> more sense, to me at least.
> >>>> 27.  Is there a limit to the number attachments in an email? The
> >>>> BN will not send more than 7, I believe.
> >>>> 28.  Technical: what Javascript does the unit support? For
> >>>> example, the BN supports onload, onunload, and onclick, but not
> >>>> onchange, onfocus, onkeypress, and the rest.
> >>>> 29.  How is filling out fields on the BSP?
> >>>> 30.  Have you run into issues where keys would stick or in any
> >>>> other way not work?
> >>>> 31.  What version of JS does the browser have? Will it support
> >>>> dhtml (the innerHTML method on objects)?
> >>>> 32.  Overall, how do you like your unit for what you do with it?
> >>>> Please tell me anything you do not like about the unit, even if
> >arI
> >>>> did not cover it?
> >>>> You can reply off-list to avoid Raul's or Jeremy's wrath (JK
> >>>> guys).  Thanks in advance for any responses.
> 
> >>>> Have a great day,
> >>>> Alex

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