Hi Tessa,
I could live without the Daisy Player. It is nice to have things in one device 
but for the life of me I do not know why people need to have the radio in their 
Braille Sense.
Having a device that allows me to handle email and use the Web Browser 
I find it to be a little bit of Heaven.
Colleen Roth

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tessa" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: 2009/08/14 14:51:59
Subject: Re: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits

>
>
> Wouldn't it be nice if we could customize our devices?
> I bought the BS+ BECAUSE OF IT's braille display, the 8gb of flash memory 
> and a couple other things I can't think of right now LOL.
> All the PDA's are trying to do a little bit of everything which is okay if 
> you really want everything. I could easily live without the media player, 
> radio and daisy player but since they're part of the package I'll learn them 
> eventually and enjoy them no doubt.
> On the other hand having everything in one unit means you don't have to drag 
> around a handfull of different tech devices which suits me fine.
> I'm definitely happy with my bs+, but with any product one can always find 
> suggestions for improvements.
> Tessa
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Colleen Roth" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:44 PM
> Subject: RE: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> I love my Braille Sense Classic.
> I do not like and want to use a Computer.
> As long as I can read txt or doc files and receive and send email I will be 
> very happy.
> I also like using the Internet but could live without the Web Browser if I 
> had to.
> I am wondering if the Braille Plus would do more than my BS. I still would 
> want my BS SO I could read things in Braille. I also think it is probably 
> easier to use than a Braille Plus.
> Colleen Roth
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: unknown <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: 2009/08/14 12:53:30
> Subject: RE: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Joseph and All,
> >
> > Joseph, I do agree with you that BS AND VS USERS NEED TO KEEP A CLEAR 
> > PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT THESE DEVICES ARE AND ARE NOT.  They are a PDA, NOT A 
> > LAPTOP OR DESKTOP COMPUTER.  They are meant to be used on the go.  Think 
> > of it as your travel suitcase for information.  You can't fit everything 
> > in there, just as you can't fit your entire wardrobe and other items in 
> > your suitcase when you travel.
> >
> > Yes, I am well aware that for some people they just can't afford a note 
> > taker and a computer or laptop along with the screen reading software. 
> > This is why it is important to assess all of your needs before buying any 
> > product.  If you have a need to create seriously formatted documents, or 
> > manage complex databases, then a note taker might not be what you need at 
> > that time.  For about the same money you can spend on a note taker, you 
> > can buy a netbook and screen reading software.
> >
> > I am not trying to convince people that the BS AND VS ARE NOT WORTH WHILE 
> > DEVICES.  I love my VS FOR WHAT IT IS, AND HAVE RECOMMENDED IT TO MANY 
> > OTHER PEOPLE.  However, I have recommended other devices after assessing a 
> > person's needs.
> >
> > Keep in mind that the more features that get packed into a device will 
> > raise the price.
> >
> > Annette
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Joseph Lee [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:08 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi folks,
> > Nice to see a steady flow of suggestions about Braille sense. Some of them 
> > included foreign language support, word count and so forth. Although they 
> > were good ones, one needs to consider if it is worth it to put it on a 
> > device that has technical limits. Not that I am saying that BS FAMILY HAS 
> > OUTWARD LIMITS, BUT IN TERMS OF SPECS AND OS, IT DOES HAVE LIMITS.
> > First, as mike said, Braille Sense  is a PDA. In other words, Braille 
> > Sense is meant to be PC COMPANION, NOT A PC REPLACEMENT (ALTHOUGH I've 
> > seen some people mistaken it for such). In other words, not all things 
> > that can be done on a computer cannot be done under Braille Sense. For 
> > instance, not all websites that a Windows XP MACHINE CAN HANDLE CANNOT BE 
> > NAVIGATED USING Braille Sense.
> > On the hardware side, the line between PC AND PDA IS BECOMING LESS 
> > DIFFERENTIATED - AT LEAST WHEN BS IS CONCERNED. Braille Sense has one of 
> > the good processors for mobile devices, as well as sufficient memory to 
> > run applications and store useful data. But in terms of software side, it 
> > is not. Braille Sense runs under Windows CE - NOT REGULAR Wihndows, folks. 
> > Windows CE IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OS ARCHITECTURE THAN Windows NT 
> > FAMILY. Thus, it has limits, such as 32 MB OF VIRTUAL MEMORY AND 32 
> > PROCESS LIMIT (THIS IS THE REASON WHY BS WOULD ONLY ALLOW SEVEN PROGRAMS 
> > MAXIMUM). As for virtual memory, I need solid evidence of things such as 
> > browser crashing or other slow downs before explaining what exactly it is 
> > and its limits (if demands requires me to, but right now I am going 
> > through summer school in college).
> > Also, as I have stressed on another list, writing code for embedded 
> > devices such as Braille Sense carries different requirements. One needs to 
> > be careful about memory usage, processor architecture and so forth. Just 
> > because we imagine things in our heads and pray that it will appear out of 
> > nowhere does not mean that it will happen soon - one needs to plan, 
> > compose, debug, recompile and release the software (if stable enough) 
> > numerous times before a suggestion or feature request will work properly.
> > Also, it seems that the manual is wrong about type of USB PORT. Braille 
> > Sense does NOT HAVE USB OTG (On-the-go) technology at all. All it has are 
> > one USB HOST AND ONE USB CLIENT, T's all. If it had OTG PORT, 
> > THEORETICALLY Braille Sense can work with two USB CLIENT DEVICES AT ONCE - 
> > ONE ON BS's own uSB HOST PORT, ANOTHER ONE ON THE USB CLIENT PORT WITH A 
> > DEDICATED ADAPTER.
> > As to what USB OTG STANDARD IS, I'll compose the article in question when 
> > there is enough demand. For those who have seen me on other lists, you 
> > would know what OTG IS AND MY ARTICLE STYLE...
> > Cheers,
> > Joseph P.S. Alex, do you agree with me on this one?
> 

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