Hi Jo,  you're bang on interms of the sharpness of the displays,  That's a very 
apt desscription.  While I wouldn't trade my bc for anything, I wouldn't mind 
at all the option to put hims sells on it.  Baum sells are just as crisp as 
anyone could stand braille to be I would imagine.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto.  I'll be at the 
assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the 
rest of the day.
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
888-255-5194

On 2010-05-29, at 3:59 PM, Joe Orozco wrote:

> Hi Crystal,
> 
> Both displays are of high quality.  The routing keys above the Apex keyboard
> are small buttons.  The routing keys above the BSP keyboard are meatier,
> slightly rectangle in shape.  Someone can correct me on that description.
> The quality of the dots is great on both devices.  For me, the difference is
> in the navigation keys.  You're familiar with the Pac Mate, and so you know
> how there are wheels at either side of the display.  The BSP has similar
> keys, only these are capsule-shaped keys divided into upper and lower
> halves.  Perhaps I did not learn how to correctly use the Whiz wheels on the
> PMO, but I rather enjoyed the reading experience on the BSP.  I thought I
> was attached to the BrailleNote signature thumb keys, but in the Apex these
> thumb keys were reduced in size.  If the device is used on a table, the
> difference is not bad.  If, however, you use it on your lap, I sometimes
> found it difficult to easily press the keys because of their size.  Mind
> you, these are all personal preferences.  These observations have nothing to
> do with the functionality of the device, and if at all possible you should
> try to get your hands on both technologies to compare for yourself.  In
> terms of the Braille display, I felt that perhaps the Apex may have had a
> crisper quality, but nowhere near enough to make me want to belittle the
> excellence of the BSP Braille display.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Joe
> 
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Crystal French [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 12:08 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [GWN] Introduction
> 
> Hi Joe,
> No, GPS is not the only thing I am looking at between the two 
> note takers.
> 
> You bring up a very important factor to me:  the Braille displays.
> 
> I may be making a wrong assumption from your message, but 
> gather that you 
> have some experience with both units.
> 
> May I ask why you feel that the Braille reading experience is 
> better on the 
> Braille Sense Plus?
> 
> I thought the Apex used the same display as the BSP?
> 
> Thanks.
> Crystal
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Orozco" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 10:19 AM
> Subject: RE: [GWN] Introduction
> 
> 
>> Let us hope it is not the Rolls Royce of GPS, unless BMW has 
> allowed the
>> model to go by the wayside.  All GPS functionality is primarily led by
>> Sendero.  One notetaker's ability is not significantly 
> different from the
>> other, if at all.  My recommendation is not to use GPS as 
> your deciding
>> factor between the two products.  Even the veteran traveler will find
>> themselves using the other functionalities more than the GPS 
> application.
>> If you want GPS, use your phone.  The iPhone already provides good
>> navigation.  The Android platform is catching up, and it will 
> not be long
>> before something comparable is launched for Windows Mobile.
>> 
>> Moving from the Pac Mate Omni you will find yourself losing the 
>> flexibility
>> of Windows Mobile.  Say good-bye to third-party applications, 
> among many 
>> of
>> the formatting features found in Office, but say hello to 
> portability and
>> easy user interface.  I've chosen to gamble on the Braille Sense Plus
>> because the keyboard is the quietest of all the notetakers.  It's menu
>> structure most closely resembles Windows, not including the 
> Pac Mate Omni,
>> and it feels good in your hands.  I know this last may sound 
> bogus or full
>> of personal opinion, but anyone who's ever spent hours 
> reading a book on a
>> Braille display understands the importance of a product that 
> can give you 
>> a
>> good comfortable experience while reading and typing.  All 
> this does not
>> include the bigger storage, built-in wi/fi and Bluetooth, etc.
>> 
>> Just my thoughts,
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up 
> their sleeves,
>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Gallagher [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 9:13 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [GWN] Introduction
>> 
>> Hi there I use both products and gps is a must for me.
>> At the moment the gps on the sense is behind the apex or should I say
>> braille note products.
>> I understand very very soon the new update to the sense products will
>> have the most up to date sendero gps on it.
>> all I can say for gps on the apex that it is truly great though
>> expensive I do know it is the rolls royce as regards gps products.
>> both apex and braille sense are very good indeed but the sense has a
>> much quieter keyboard.
>> if further interest email offlist and I will answer any questions as
>> both products are not cheap and you need to right choice.
>> cheers then.At 14:10 29/05/2010, you wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> i have just joined this list, and want to introduce myself.
>>> 
>>> I do not have a Braille Sense Plus, but am considering it or a
>>> BrailleNote Apex.
>>> 
>>> I know that the Apex is available now in an eighteen cell model, but
>>> understand that there is also a soon to be Braille Sense Plus
>>> eighteen cell model, too.
>>> 
>>> I am trying to learn as much as I can about both units, although, I
>>> have seen neither one as yet.
>>> 
>>> I have used a Pac Mate Omni for several years, but want to go to
>>> something smaller and lighter, especially, since I am interested in
>>> the Sendero GPS.
>>> 
>>> I will want a unit with the Braille keyboard.
>>> 
>>> I would be interested in any comments from users who may have
>>> familiarity with both the Braille Sense Plus and Apex, if it is okay
>>> to ask that on this list.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> Crystal
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