Hi,
Just another hint and teaser... Skype works with iPhone!
As for programming, the good thing is that Apple uses standard UI for its
programs, which helps VoiceOver work with many of the programs 9according to
what I heard).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Duarte [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [GWN] comments about future of Braille Notetakers on Adelaide
Radio

Hello Erik,
no it is not hard at all. the problem is that there are next to no
programmers out there that care enough to take the time to write a program
for the blind. this is the exact reason why it cost 6000 for a blind product
that is about half as functional as a 200 dollar device. the programming
community that is programming for the iPhone  is sighted therefore Braille,
support, and apps that are accessible for the blind are few and far between,
or nonexistent. 

-----Original Message-----
From: erik burggraaf [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GWN] comments about future of braille Notetakers on Adelaide
Radio

Hi, suggest it to the Solona people.  I mean, could it really be that hard
to write a braille keyboard for the IPhone?  If you had the translation
tables which are already supported by apple it doesn't seem that it should
be a tough trick for some one who knows the ins and outs of coding for IOS.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille
box.
Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and
subscribe.

On 2010-08-12, at 12:40 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> I know about these. The problem is that they are QWERTY only. If Apple
> built a braille keyboard option into the iOS platform, then an overlay
> could be made for it, and you essentially have a Voice Sense, but
> running mainstream software. The major advantage would be that even
> the high-end iPad only costs $700 or so, as opposed to a couple
> thousand for a VS.
> 
> On 8/12/10, erik burggraaf <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi, some one is way ahead of you, smile.
>> 
>>
http://www.solona.net/tactile-screen-protectors-for-apple-products-by-solona
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille
>> box.
>> Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and
>> subscribe.
>> 
>> On 2010-08-12, at 11:56 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> Just a thought/something to consider: if the iPod or iPad ever got an
>>> on-screen braille keyboard, someone could make a screen overlay for it
>>> so you could feel where the keys are, and then you have what amounts
>>> to a mainstream voice-only notetaker. Use a braille display if you
>>> want to, and you have the same thing you get with a Voice Sense. Apple
>>> has done such a good job making the iTouch line accessible that I
>>> could imagine many people in the future switching from a propriatary
>>> device to a mainstream one like the iTouch with a braille keyboard.
>>> 
>>> On 8/12/10, Joe Orozco <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Man, I hope you're wrong about the death of the notetaker.  True, there
>>>> are
>>>> a lot of limitations, but there are so many benefits to a unit that
boots
>>>> up
>>>> quickly and is in one piece versus separate units.  This is partly my
>>>> beef
>>>> with GPS solutions on the smart phones that require the phone, the
>>>> software
>>>> and a separate bluetooth receiver even though the smart phones's
internal
>>>> GPS receiver and software work quite well on their own for sighted
>>>> people.
>>>> Me, I'm thinking the projection is more applicable to the Pac Mate that
>>>> physically can no longer compete with HIMS and others.
>>>> 
>>>> Joe
>>>> 
>>>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their
>>>> sleeves,
>>>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: erik burggraaf [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:24 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [GWN] comments about future of braille Notetakers
>>>> on Adelaide Radio
>>>> 
>>>> Hum,  Mr. Drummond isn't news on the death of the portable note
>>>> taker.  I kind'a hate to see it go, but It's just not
>>>> economical in the current technology market.  A lot of us have
>>>> been saying that for years, even as we rejoice that people who
>>>> need them still buy.
>>>> 
>>>> What's interesting about this guy is, he's toting jaws and the
>>>> focus 40 blue, which are about 5 years behind the technology
>>>> curve, as the advent of the death of the note taker.  Now
>>>> whether you're a fan of freedom scientific or not, and you all
>>>> know I come firmly down on the side of not, You have to admit
>>>> that window-eyes, mobile speak, talks, humanware devices like
>>>> the braille connect, and alva devices like the bc640 have been
>>>> around a whole lot longer than the focus 40 blue, and do a far
>>>> better job on the portability and compatibility fronts than
>>>> jaws and focus.
>>>> 
>>>> Did you also notice that the north american scanner manufacture
>>>> was pointedly not mentioned by name, and that the model of the
>>>> optelec scanner was conspicuously left out, but jaws and the
>>>> focus 40 blue were mentioned repeatedly?  Would any one in the
>>>> class like to tell me who has exclusivity on freedom scientific
>>>> products in Australia?
>>>> 
>>>> I could be making too much of it, But I guarantee you that is
>>>> how the top brass of the freedom scientific distributer in
>>>> Canada would have handled that interview, and I don't have
>>>> anything against the guy personally.  That's just the way it is
>>>> with FS and the people who work for them.
>>>> 
>>>> Have fun,
>>>> 
>>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>>> Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using
>>>> the braille box.
>>>> Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read
>>>> more and subscribe.
>>>> 
>>>> On 2010-08-11, at 9:32 PM, peter greco wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I interviewed Rob Drummond from Quantum Technology in
>>>> Australia and he made some interesting comments about the
>>>> future of braille notetakers.
>>>>> You can hear these comments go to,
>>>>> www.rphadelaide.org.au/Webcast.html
>>>>> Rob's on the program Focal Point about 10 or 12 minutes in.
>>>>> Peter
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