Read to end problem?  What read to end problem? 
Also the synthesizer does not support tone internally  which means you would
have to hack it some way.  So what you would have to do is get all of the
parts of the synasizer in to memory. 
It is not gw micros fault that this device does not support this capability
in its native interface.  
As for loss of speech problems if no one is getting an error to send to gw
micro so they can reproduce or see at least what is going on how can they
fix it?  you can't fix something you can't reproduce.  For example right now
on the scripting list we are all doing testing to figure out why my IE Max
is broken and now we got another person's who is not working.  Will it get
fixed yes but we have to find the problem first.   face it fellows every
piece of software ever put out is broken in some way and that is why it has
to be updated.  If every bug got fixed then window-eyes 7.0 would never get
put out.  This is why you have servus packs updates etc.  


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Tinney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:11 PM
To: Sam bushman; GW Micro
Subject: WE 7 Beta 3 issues and priorities

Sam, I also agree that the loss of speech issue should be resolved before a 
full release comes out.  There are two more things that I can think of that 
should also be fixed

First, the read to end problem was broken with WE 7 betas and apparently GW 
Micro is not going to fix this problem before version seven comes out.  I 
thought that GW Micro was dedicated to releasing a rock solid product, but I

guess they are  just spouting words, like FS.

Another problem that needs to be fixed is that with the new eloquence, the 
voice tone can not be changed.  That is very important to many users.

I hope that GW Micro reconsiders releasing a broken product, cause Rock 
Solid sure doesn't apply to version 7 beta 3!

Bob Tinney, K8LR, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype, bobtinn
Original Message ----- 
From: Sam bushman
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:31 PM
Subject: WE 7 Beta 3 issues and priorities


Hi all,

Is it possible to get a beta 3 priorities list together?
I like it when we find bugs report them they are duplicated and fixed for 
the next version.

But, we need to start to focus on the most important issues / a priority 
list if you will.
In other words ... many of us are reporting the same things over and over.
I agree they are problems but, GW has basically said they aren't working on 
msaa stuff.
So, email, web browsers pdf files (any thing that uses msaa is not the 
focus).
It doesn't matter if we agree that is the proper order ... that is what is 
set for fix / release.

I personally would have rerote the msaa / browse mode stuff way before I 
would have added power point / itunes  and scripting.
But, GW has the list of what they think best and we need to trust them and 
be part of the solution for the next release ... isn't that what we agree to

when we use / run the beta.

Now please don't email the list debating with the above and the pros and 
cons of this are.
I am not trying to speak for GW and am just repeating what I personally 
think they said and ment.

Personally the loss of speech is the biggest issue for me.
I lost speach yesterday ... couldn't get it back for the life of me.
I had a sighted daughter say that we was running and she clicked around and 
the computer was working perfectly.
She didn't know why the speach was not happening but, I had her click on the

system tray icon for WE and exit the program.
It exited cleanly and I just pressed ctrl-alt-w and we came back to life.
No errors of any kind and when I tried to send an error report WE said there

were no errors to report.
The sad part about this is I was not able to get GW any info to help resolve

this (huge!) loss of speach issue.
Since we would like WE to be rock solid and would love to have speech as 
reliable as the screen output ... I am hoping all of us can come up with a 
way to duplicate and help GW resolve this main issue.

Any ideas on this?

If GW could give us a list of things we should try and do in order when we 
loose speech we may get them more info that would be helpful.
Currently I know that the story I just told about loss of speech above 
doesn't help them at all.
But, If I know exactly what they are looking for and what they want me to do

in order and reported solid step by step info ... they could get to the 
bottom of this.

Any ideas are welcome.
Any one else think the loss of speech issue is bar none the biggest issue 
for us?

Thanks for listening.
Sam bushman


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