Hi Curtis, They are the best progress sounds I have heard for a while, even if they do sound like the checkout tills in a supermarket <Smile>.
All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: Curtis Delzer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday 19 November 2009 22:16 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Feedback about the Latest Progress Indicator Script Hey, thanks, I will definitely check this out. Curtis Delzer. HS. on Sunday 11/15/2009 11:37 PM, Doug Lee said: >I have placed the JGauge sound file set on my web site as its own >thing. To read about it and/or download it, go to > > http://www.dlee.org/gauge_sounds.htm > >This can quickly be used to create an alternative set of sound files >for this project. > >Note that a renfiles.bat file is included to provide a quick way to >rename the files. For Window-Eyes' ProgressBar scripts, you would run > > renfiles gauge progress > >then manually figure out what files to use for the two special >*default.wav files in the Window-Eyes sound file set. > >The README file from the set follows. > > >This is a set of sounds for reporting progress bar status. I >originally created these sounds in 2003 for JAWS and an experimental >set of scripts I called JGauge. I am now making the sounds available >for any other project. For convenience, the file set also comes with >a batch file that can be used to change the basename of all sound >files in the set. > >For the curious, the files were generated using an old Unix-based >command-line tool called augen. The Perl program that drives augen to >make the files, genwavs.pl, is included in this file set as well. > >Sound and Theory: > >Each of the 101 position files consists of three tones: A bottom border >tone of 220 Hz, a top border tone of 880 Hz, and a somewhat louder tone >between the two indicating the current position. The tones are triangle >waves, thus a bit clearer in pitch to the ear than sine waves yet less >obnoxious in headphones than square waves. The idea of having three >tones is to make the ear recognize the distance from current position >to one or both borders without requiring perfect pitch. > >There are four additional sound files with special meanings: > >gaugenew.wav is for indicating the arrival of a new progress bar and >consists of the two border tones plus a short and rapidly ascending >sweep sound. Similarly, gaugeexp.wav is to indicate the disappearance >of a progress bar and consists of the two border tones plus a rapidly >descending sweep. > >gaugeobs.wav indicates an obscured but still present progress bar. >When MSAA is used to get progress bar values, this may not be >necessary. However, for special progress bars that don't report MSAA >and must be read via pixel examinations on screen, this can be used to >indicate when a bar is present but whose position can't be reliably >determined. This file contains the two border tones and a small burst >of white noise to indicate the ambiguity of position. > >Finally, gaugeunr.wav is to indicate completely unreadable >progress bars. This file is just a burst of white noise without the >border tones. This file may no longer be needed for MSAA capable >bars. > >Since different projects may prefer different file name prefixes, a >renfiles.bat file is also included to rename all the sound files in >the set at once: Usage: renfiles oldPrefix newPrefix. Example: > > renfiles gauge progress > >will rename the files progress0.wav, progress100.wav, progressnew.wav, >etc. > > >Doug Lee >November 15, 2009 > >On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:09:54PM -0000, Steve Nutt wrote: >Hi, > >The only difficult situation for the others for me was laptop speakers, but >I did prefer them overall. I think a piano might do it. > >All the best > >Steve > >-----Original Message----- >From: J.J. Meddaugh [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Sunday 15 November 2009 21:03 >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Feedback about the Latest Progress Indicator Script > >The others were too muted to me. But there's probably a middle ground. >There's also a difference in headphones vs. speakers vs. laptop speakers. > >J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com >A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Steve Nutt" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:47 PM >Subject: RE: Feedback about the Latest Progress Indicator Script > > > > Hi JJ, > > > > Sorry, but you must admit, they are loud and horrid sounds <Smile>. > > > > All the best > > > > Steve > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: J.J. Meddaugh [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday 15 November 2009 18:37 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Feedback about the Latest Progress Indicator Script > > > > Wow. Guess I should have never touched the old sounds, grin. > > I'll see what I can do. > > > > J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com > > A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steve Nutt" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:16 PM > > Subject: RE: Feedback about the Latest Progress Indicator Script > > > > > >> Hi Curtis, > >> > >> Could you send the wavs to me please? Don't like these horrible noises. > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> All the best > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Curtis Delzer [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Sunday 15 November 2009 17:29 > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: RE: Feedback about the Latest Progress Indicator Script > >> > >> I do have them now. > >> > >> > >> Curtis Delzer. > >> HS. > >> > >> > >> on Sunday 11/15/2009 02:49 AM, Steve Nutt said: > >>>I would go back to the original sounds, but since updating I don't know > >> what > >>>the original wav files were that were used. Anyone have them? > >>> > >>>All the best > >>> > >>>Steve > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Life My Way [mailto:[email protected]] > >>>Sent: Sunday 15 November 2009 02:50 > >>>To: [email protected] > >>>Subject: Re: Feedback about the Latest Progress Indicator Script > >>> > >>>why not use a real panio to make the notes or go back to the orginal > >>>sounds? > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Steve Nutt" <[email protected]> > >>>To: <[email protected]> > >>>Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 5:51 PM > >>>Subject: RE: Feedback about the Latest Progress Indicator Script > >>> > >>> > >>>Hi J J, > >>> > >>>I prefer the older sounds. They were no good for laptops, but I liked > >>>them > >>>for the desktop. Any way we can get them back other than downgrading? I > >>>think we should be able to choose the ascending sounds, between those > >>>two. > >>>These now are too loud and harsh for a desktop or headphones situation. > >>> > >>>All the best > >>> > >>>Steve > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: J.J. Meddaugh [mailto:[email protected]] > >>>Sent: Saturday 14 November 2009 20:41 > >>>To: [email protected] > >>>Subject: Re: Feedback about the Latest Progress Indicator Script > >>> > >>>I'm open to ideas. Agreed those aren't the greatest sounds either. > >>>Ideally > >>>there would be a tone generator function in VBScript but alas there > >>>isn't. > >>> > >>>J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com > >>>A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Curtis Delzer" <[email protected]> > >>>To: "Steve Pattison" <[email protected]>; "GW Info" > >> <[email protected]> > >>>Cc: "the gw-micro scripting list" <[email protected]> > >>>Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 1:59 PM > >>>Subject: Re: Feedback about the Latest Progress Indicator Script > >>> > >>> > >>> >I believe the reasons for the sounds are percentages of one. The other > >>> >sounds, the whole tone scale as it was, I think only 20 rather than 100 > >>> >sounds? Guessing but that is a default of 5 percentage. I don't like > >>> >that > >>> >"raspy" sound either, which actually are square waves as opposed to > >>> >sine > >>> >waves, and seems to me that they are the same as the NVDA sounds which > >>> >indicate progress bars. The problem with 100 sounds, is the range of > >>> >most > >>> >speaker systems on computers, and maintaining some kind of musical > >> context > >>> >as in the earlier sounds. I'll see if I can work out something, because > >> it > >>> >would be fun to hear musical sounds as opposed to this rasp. :) > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Curtis Delzer. > >>> > HS. > >>> > sounds. Problem, > >>> > > >>> > At Thursday 11/12/2009 03:40 AM, Steve Pattison wrote: > >>> >>First of all I appreciate the hard work people who write scripts do to > >>> >>provide so many useful scripts for people like me who don't have the > >>> >>slightest clue how to write scripts or any other type of program. > >>> >> > >>> >>However I am very disappointed with the new sounds in the latest > >>> >>version > >>> >>of the Progress Indicator script. I find the new sounds very harsh > >>> >>and > >>> >>bordering on being annoying. However I appreciate other people prefer > >>> >>these sounds and I understand why GW Micro feel the new sounds are > >>> >>better for people using laptops etc. > >>> >> > >>> >>I have a suggestion that could possibly please everyone. Why not > >>> >>create > >>> >>another script with the original sounds and call it something like > >>> >>Progress Indicator Classic or similar and make it identical to the new > >>> >>Progress Indicator script except for the sounds. Then you could > >>> >>include > >>> >>the edition of the script with the new sounds as the default script > >>> >>with > >>> >>Window-eyes and also on Script Central and as well make another > >>> >>edition > >>> >>of the script available on Script Central with the sounds that wer > >>> >>used > >>> >>previously with this script. > >>> >> > >>> >>Regards Steve > >>> >>Email: [email protected] > >>> >>MSN Messenger: [email protected] > >>> >>Skype: steve1963 > >>> >>Twitter: steve9782 > >>> >> > >>> >>If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original > >>> >>sender only. 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