Yes, I would also like to add pop up menus and tab control support. Both
are on the wish list. However, I have to weigh the benefits of these
over other things. The mouse changes would be extremely easy...adding
pop up menus and tab controls would be far more work.
It is interesting thought that Window-Eyes support for sophisticated
dialogs greatly exceeds anything else out there and yet more is
requested all the time <heavy sigh>.
Regards,
Doug
J.J. Meddaugh wrote:
That would be great. The other one I can think of as far as XML
dialogs is the ability to do tab sheets.
The way around this now is to use a tree view to select the desired
set of settings,.
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* Chip Orange <mailto:[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Saturday, June 12, 2010 5:04 PM
*Subject:* RE: is it possible to create a context menu with a script?
Thanks Doug for adding this to your plans.
The rest of the problem however is that it appears there's no way to create on screen anything which looks and acts remotely like a context menu.
If I were asking for plans for enhancements, it would be more
along the lines of adding a context menu capability to the xml
dialog facility of window eyes, even though I'm sure these
additional mouse event capabilities will be helpful to someone.
thanks.
Chip
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*From:* Doug Geoffray [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Friday, June 11, 2010 11:40 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: is it possible to create a context menu with a script?
I am behind on this thread but I'll chime in anyway.
You could use the OnButtonUp and OnButtonDown mouse events but
currently we only pass back the button that was used. So in your
event callback you could use the Mouse object to get the window
the mouse is over and it's position to determine if you want to do
anything. Of course the issue with this is it may be possible by
the time you get the button event that the mouse moved so you
aren't getting the correct window or position when the click
occurred but I think this window is small enough to not worry about.
However, I did add to the Window-Eyes specs to setup an enhanced
mouse event that would not only give you the button of interest
but also the Window object the mouse was over, the mouse position
and the keyboard modifier state.
Doug
Chip Orange wrote:
Hi Jamal,
what I was referring to were the "onButtonUp" and "onButtonDown" events for
the mouse object.
As Aaron points out, maybe you meant an event which relates the mouse button
click to a particular object it was clicked over; no such luck, these only
tell you if it was the left or right button and that's it.
Chip
-----Original Message-----
From: Jamal Mazrui [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 1:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: is it possible to create a context menu with a script?
Hi Chip,
Not sure what you mean. I searched the scripting documentation and could
not find an event related to a right mouse click. I only found one event
related to the Mouse object, which fires when the mouse pointer changes
shape. If I've missed something, can you give me the specifics?
Jamal
-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: is it possible to create a context menu with a script?
Jamal, there is one in the mouse object, but it isn't limited to any object
such as a control or dialog if that was what you were wanting.
Chip
-----Original Message-----
From: Jamal Mazrui [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: is it possible to create a context menu with a script?
In WE8, could GW add an event for a right mouse button click?
Jamal
On 5/20/2010 8:14 AM, Ron Parker wrote:
Not necessarily "supposed to have both," no, but the recommendation at
the time was that if you did have context menus, there should always
be some other way to accomplish the same thing. This may have changed;
it's been over a decade since I had to care about the nitty-gritty
rules about context menus.
And no, there's no way in Window-Eyes to do this. Someone could create
an application in some non-script language that exposed a shared
object or a COM Automation server to Window-Eyes script clients and
interacted with the OS to provide this functionality, but as far as I
know it's not available now. (For that matter, you could even do it in
some scripting languages. PerlScript, for example. But then you'd be
requiring your users to install PerlScript.)
On 5/19/2010 9:00 PM, Chip Orange wrote:
I think I'm following this point, you're supposed to have both in a
proper interface?
I had one in a large VBA project, for my employer not a script for
WE, where I had the users select the item they wanted to work with,
and then click a toolbar button or menu choice or command button, and
I had requests from some of the users to add context menus; they said
they assumed you could always right click anything and do whatever
with a context menu, as well as clicking on a toolbar button, and
sometimes with a crowded screen full of information and choices, they
thought it was easier to right click than to hunt down the right menu
choice or toolbar button.
so anyway, I could give them a context menu in an office VBA project,
so I wondered if I could do the same in an xml dialog?
it looks like not, but thanks for you guys answering the question.
Chip
*From:* Ron Parker [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:15 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: is it possible to create a context menu with a script?
Actually, even if you have context menus, you're supposed to do that
anyway. It's in the Windows UI guidelines (or was, back when
dinosaurs roamed the Earth.)
On 5/19/2010 4:11 PM, Aaron Smith wrote:
Alternatively, use the existing dialog menu system to act on the
selected list view item.
Aaron
On 5/19/2010 3:59 PM, Ron Parker wrote:
Visually, it'd look nothing like a context menu. Also, it obviously
wouldn't have any support for shortcuts or submenus or checkmarks
or disabled items or separators or accelerators, though presumably
you could sort of emulate those with enough work. (Submenus would
require a treeview instead of a listbox.)
On 5/19/2010 3:55 PM, Chip Orange wrote:
you could detect when a right click happened, and maybe even build
a listbox dynamicly if you could figure out if the right click
happened over your item, but then is displaying a dialog with a
listbox the same thing as a context menu (assuming you could make
it close with the enter key and not require an "ok" button)? it
doesn't sound like it would look much like a context menu.
Chip
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Bishop [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:49 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: is it possible to create a context menu with a script?
I don't think so but it would be cool.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chip Orange"<[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> To:<[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:48 PM
Subject: is it possible to create a context menu with a script?
Hi all,
the subject says it all; is it possible to have something like a
listbox, where you can create a context menu if the user right
clicks on any item in the listbox?
thanks.
Chip
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