Definitely. Once the door was open, now we want the world. Yes, I'd much rather have a superior browse mode before any of this so we can properly script websites, etc. And like I said, you could get around tab sheets by using dynamic tree views. Can't wait for WE 8 betas.
J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com A premier Code Factory, KNFB Reader, and Sendero distributor ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Geoffray To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: Re: is it possible to create a context menu with a script? Yes, I would also like to add pop up menus and tab control support. Both are on the wish list. However, I have to weigh the benefits of these over other things. The mouse changes would be extremely easy...adding pop up menus and tab controls would be far more work. It is interesting thought that Window-Eyes support for sophisticated dialogs greatly exceeds anything else out there and yet more is requested all the time <heavy sigh>. Regards, Doug J.J. Meddaugh wrote: That would be great. The other one I can think of as far as XML dialogs is the ability to do tab sheets. The way around this now is to use a tree view to select the desired set of settings,. J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com A premier Code Factory, KNFB Reader, and Sendero distributor ----- Original Message ----- From: Chip Orange To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 5:04 PM Subject: RE: is it possible to create a context menu with a script? Thanks Doug for adding this to your plans. The rest of the problem however is that it appears there's no way to create on screen anything which looks and acts remotely like a context menu. If I were asking for plans for enhancements, it would be more along the lines of adding a context menu capability to the xml dialog facility of window eyes, even though I'm sure these additional mouse event capabilities will be helpful to someone. thanks. Chip -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Doug Geoffray [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: is it possible to create a context menu with a script? I am behind on this thread but I'll chime in anyway. You could use the OnButtonUp and OnButtonDown mouse events but currently we only pass back the button that was used. So in your event callback you could use the Mouse object to get the window the mouse is over and it's position to determine if you want to do anything. Of course the issue with this is it may be possible by the time you get the button event that the mouse moved so you aren't getting the correct window or position when the click occurred but I think this window is small enough to not worry about. However, I did add to the Window-Eyes specs to setup an enhanced mouse event that would not only give you the button of interest but also the Window object the mouse was over, the mouse position and the keyboard modifier state. Doug Chip Orange wrote: Hi Jamal, what I was referring to were the "onButtonUp" and "onButtonDown" events for the mouse object. As Aaron points out, maybe you meant an event which relates the mouse button click to a particular object it was clicked over; no such luck, these only tell you if it was the left or right button and that's it. Chip -----Original Message----- From: Jamal Mazrui [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 1:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: is it possible to create a context menu with a script? Hi Chip, Not sure what you mean. I searched the scripting documentation and could not find an event related to a right mouse click. I only found one event related to the Mouse object, which fires when the mouse pointer changes shape. If I've missed something, can you give me the specifics? Jamal -----Original Message----- From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: is it possible to create a context menu with a script? Jamal, there is one in the mouse object, but it isn't limited to any object such as a control or dialog if that was what you were wanting. Chip -----Original Message----- From: Jamal Mazrui [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:29 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Ron Parker Subject: Re: is it possible to create a context menu with a script? In WE8, could GW add an event for a right mouse button click? Jamal On 5/20/2010 8:14 AM, Ron Parker wrote: Not necessarily "supposed to have both," no, but the recommendation at the time was that if you did have context menus, there should always be some other way to accomplish the same thing. This may have changed; it's been over a decade since I had to care about the nitty-gritty rules about context menus. And no, there's no way in Window-Eyes to do this. Someone could create an application in some non-script language that exposed a shared object or a COM Automation server to Window-Eyes script clients and interacted with the OS to provide this functionality, but as far as I know it's not available now. (For that matter, you could even do it in some scripting languages. PerlScript, for example. But then you'd be requiring your users to install PerlScript.) On 5/19/2010 9:00 PM, Chip Orange wrote: I think I'm following this point, you're supposed to have both in a proper interface? I had one in a large VBA project, for my employer not a script for WE, where I had the users select the item they wanted to work with, and then click a toolbar button or menu choice or command button, and I had requests from some of the users to add context menus; they said they assumed you could always right click anything and do whatever with a context menu, as well as clicking on a toolbar button, and sometimes with a crowded screen full of information and choices, they thought it was easier to right click than to hunt down the right menu choice or toolbar button. so anyway, I could give them a context menu in an office VBA project, so I wondered if I could do the same in an xml dialog? it looks like not, but thanks for you guys answering the question. Chip *From:* Ron Parker [mailto:[email protected]] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:15 PM *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> *Subject:* Re: is it possible to create a context menu with a script? Actually, even if you have context menus, you're supposed to do that anyway. It's in the Windows UI guidelines (or was, back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth.) On 5/19/2010 4:11 PM, Aaron Smith wrote: Alternatively, use the existing dialog menu system to act on the selected list view item. Aaron On 5/19/2010 3:59 PM, Ron Parker wrote: Visually, it'd look nothing like a context menu. Also, it obviously wouldn't have any support for shortcuts or submenus or checkmarks or disabled items or separators or accelerators, though presumably you could sort of emulate those with enough work. (Submenus would require a treeview instead of a listbox.) On 5/19/2010 3:55 PM, Chip Orange wrote: you could detect when a right click happened, and maybe even build a listbox dynamicly if you could figure out if the right click happened over your item, but then is displaying a dialog with a listbox the same thing as a context menu (assuming you could make it close with the enter key and not require an "ok" button)? it doesn't sound like it would look much like a context menu. Chip -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Bishop [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:49 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: is it possible to create a context menu with a script? I don't think so but it would be cool. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chip Orange"<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> To:<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:48 PM Subject: is it possible to create a context menu with a script? Hi all, the subject says it all; is it possible to have something like a listbox, where you can create a context menu if the user right clicks on any item in the listbox? thanks. Chip -- Aaron Smith Product Support Specialist * Web Development GW Micro, Inc. * 725 Airport North Office Park, Fort Wayne, IN 46825 260-489-3671 * gwmicro.com To insure that you receive proper support, please include all past correspondence (where applicable), and any relevant information pertinent to your situation when submitting a problem report to the GW Micro Technical Support Team.
