Well, I haven't a clue as to how I gave the impression I wanted to learn scripting outside of Window-Eyes within a thread on Window-Eyes script writing. But so be it. These things happen.

My point is still that this is all only making things much more bewildering to anyone interested in scripting Window-Eyes. I didn't read through your entire WSC code as I don't see the point. All the speech parameters such as pitch, rate, volume, etc. can be changed using the Window-Eyes object model. And we're able to control the synthesizer the user is using rather than seeing what SAPI voices are on their machine. I guess we've somehow landed in an apples an oranges orchard here. But that's fine. Obviously you're trying to help, and I appreciate it.

I just think the bottom line is that the only true incentive to get folks writing Window-Eyes scripts is going to be a comprehensive tutorial focusing strictly on just that rather than tossing endless abstract resources at them. But I also fully realize that creating such will be an enormous undertaking. The problem is that the resources out there, while virtually endless, are a total hit or miss when it comes to what someone who just wants to script Window-Eyes needs. And how is the beginner suppose to know what he or she needs and what they don't, not to mention what's going to be literally a waste of time. This is the quandary scripting presents. It's akin to having the ultimate toolbox handed to you within which are the tools to build anything you desire. But what do you do with a toolbox full of tools you don't know how to use and haven't a clue as to how to build anything? It's called the catch-22 toolbox.

Well, I guess we've run this dry. At least for today. Again, I recognize and appreciate your good intentions, Bruce. So thanks for taking the time to add your input.

Regards,
Tom

----- Original Message ----- From: "BT" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Script Writing



Hi Tom,

   Only posted that method is because you wanted to know scripting outside
of Windoweyes, at least I thought that.

   Your complaint is exactly what I complained about months ago when I
joined the listing.

   So, instead of reading what they had I learned .VBS code, wrote my own
speech as posted in previous emails.

   This speech package is to allow speech without worrying about
Windoweyes, for I found the same issues as you have and sincerely hope the
tutorial Chip is writing gets to be more in depth so no one has to jump to
Microsoft or any where else.

The Methods you point out for windoweyes is true. The only difference is
I use an instanced labeled as C and the dot after it is all the speech
methods used in speech; listed in the methods list inside the class. Granted
Windoweyes uses only the word speech, but that is for speaking only.

   So, I posted the actual SAPI format and how to construct all voice
parms. It is for both SAPI 4 and SAPI 5 and those 2 can be the same if
percentages is used for both as you will see in some of the methods.

   It would be nice to have a nice tutorial that goes from basic script
writing all the way into Windoweyes. I just gave you another approach to
learn some of the scripts, which still requires the formats in the
Windoweyes version.

   What Chip last wrote is an improvement of what existed several months
ago. So, I guess it is work in progress.

   Sorry about not knowing about your knowledge, just did not know...
Also, I never got a copy of the last 2 posts I made, probably because of
the attachment.

       Sincerely
       Bruce



I should also clarify for anyone interested in learning to script that this TTS example has absolutely nothing to do with Window-Eyes scripting. Read it
and be intimidated if you wish. Then realize that in order to make
Window-Eyes speak you do nothing more than use a Speak command, such as in
the following.

Speak "Hello world!"

In a script you're writing for Window-Eyes, that's it. Use the Speak command to tell Window-Eyes what to speak and you're done. The method outlined below
is for a stand-alone script to run independent of Window-Eyes by using the
Windows scripting host. Again, this has absolutely nothing to do with
scripting Window-Eyes.

Tom

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kingston" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Script Writing


Thanks for the lesson, but I've been programming for 20 years. I tried to
clarify my point in my last message. I apologize if my previous message
was so misleading.

Regards,
Tom


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