Hi T.J.,

there is also a scripting wiki which GW has setup at http://gwmicro.com/wiki

I am to blame for two articles on writing scripts: "so you want to write a
script" parts 1 and 2.  not great material, I know, but it is what it is for
the moment until I have time to fill it out, or I get some volunteer help
(since a wiki can be a community effort).

I do find talking with those who are like yourself, at the beginning stages,
works much better than trying to anticipate everyone's questions, and write
an article for them.  therefore, I plan to start a conference approach to
learning to script in a week or so, where we use TeamTalk to allow
presenters to cover topics, and it allows anyone to interrupt at any time
with questions.  

I had thought to start with "how to program", and then "object oriented
programming" (minimal coverage here on both, only using VBScript), and then
finally on to the window eyes object model, accessibility, and writing apps.

If you're interested, please drop me a note at:

[email protected]

so I can put your name on the email distribution list, and then go hunt down
TeamTalk, install it, and learn how to use it.  when you install it you'll
get a choice of four different components, and you want to choose the one
which is the "classic client with accessibility".

If you don't own a headset/microphone at the moment, you can still listen,
and enter any questions using text messages to the group (using TeamTalk,
not cellphone text messages).  I'm sure you could still learn a lot even if
you don't have a microphone for participation.

I had thought to do this on Sunday afternoons or evenings, probably an hour
or so each time, open ended, and covering whatever topics anyone seems to
want to talk about.

As Jeff pointed out, you can always learn something from anyone's work (or
topic), and if you know it already, you can always help communicate it to
others, so I wouldn't advise skipping any sessions; never-the-less, I'm
willing to send an email to anyone who's interested in coming in on this
later, after we've reached some point where they'd like to pick up.

so, try the wiki articles, read example apps (although this is a little hard
for the real beginners), have a look at an app called the window-eyes
Scripting Framework from GW which generates apps for you based on how you
answer some questions, and let me know if you'd like to be part of the
scripting sessions on TeamTalk.

Also, if anyone would like e-books on VBScripting where it's nothing to do
with web pages, drop me an email at the address above.  The books will cover
scripting using windows scripting host, which isn't quite the same as how it
will be when writing an app for window-eyes, still it's a way to learn
VBScript.


While I expect to start things going, I am hoping it will end up as a
regular get together, where other scripters will come in and offer some
teaching using their own knowledge and techniques eventually.


hth,


Chip Orange



-----Original Message-----
From: Tj Squires [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 12:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Just an interduction and a newbie question or three.

Hello,

I thought I would give a hello out there to all of you scripters, and
perhaps if there are, people like me who wish they were scripters!  My name
is Tj, and I've been a Jaws user for most of my computer using life.  The
reason I say most is because a couple of weeks ago, I have started getting
into using Window Eyes, and enjoy the process.  
Unfortunately, I only still have the demo, however, rectifying this will
happen on Monday!

Anyhow, now that's out of the way, I would like to say one of the biggest
things that has attracted me to Window Eyes is it's inovative and, well, to
some I'm sure, easy to use scripting process.  For me, though, it's hard!

Having said that, I've got a couple of questions for those that are
experienced script writers (or should I say app now).  The question is, how
did you get started?  I've devoured the two CSUN 2009 script recordings, the
two online intro webinars, and I will finish the last couple today, however,
I find myself with a little problem.  Although i'm sure that it's explained
verry thurrowly in the three day beginners training course I don't have the
money to attend.  I'm just a poor college student after all!  How did you
guys get started?  While I find the classes that are provided online verry
helpful in assisting in understanding the process, I found myself still a
bit clueless after the fact.  I delved into the scripting manual and found
out that objects return objects wich you can use to return objects.  An
example is the activeWindow.clips object returns a clip object which if I
search through that clip object I'll get a bigger list of clips
objects...which I can no dout figure out with patients and time, however, I
guess I should just come straight out and ask the question, eh?  I have an
issue of wanting to jump into thigns that I'm too small for (scripting the
skype options dialogue to become accessible for instance), however, I can't
seem to figure out what sort of things I should do to increase my knowledge
of the WE object moddle.  What kinds of basic, newbie scripts, did all of
you start with?  And are there any tutorials I've missed?  
Thanks for stickign with me on such a long-winded post.  I hope to
contribute to GW's customer base, and hopefully, the App Central's list of
contributers at some point in the future!

Thanks,

Tj

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