Hi Rick,

Aaron's tip for you to use the WEEvent app is what I've found to be the best
hope for a blind scripter, working without sighted help, to determine what's
going on.

there's an article in the GW knowledgebase (I think by Mike or Raul, but one
of the support team anyway), on how to determine what the graphics mean when
labeling them for outlook email.  you may not be in outlook, but their
general technique of changing things to a known state, or otherwise
verifying the state, and then looking at the graphics and possibly labeling
them, is the other way which may work for you.  it takes patience, and you
may even have to mislabel a few graphics, and use them for a while before
you can determine they're not labeled correctly.

perhaps you've got a sighted friend, and you can take a screen capture image
and email it to them and ask them about the graphics you're working with?
there's a kb article on GW support for how to do that as well.

hth,

Chip


-----Original Message-----
From: RicksPlace [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ListBox With CheckBoxes

Hi Chip: You are right. I am trying to find or develop the tools necessary
to perform accessibility analysis independantly. I have found several good
things. This problem does not seem to have a resolution yet. I can get the
graphic, the CRC and the text of the ListBox item as well as its index but
still have no clue as to what the graphics are telling me.
I might have to get a sighted person to add them to the Graphics Dictionary.

I'm not sure after that if I could then find the new entries and somehow
encorporate them into a script to update client's graphic dictionaries when
they load the script. But, I am indeed trying to figure out how much
analysis I can do as a blind script writer and this is my first real wall.
This same type of CheckBox situation occurs in several places in Visual
Studio where the CheckBox images are inside various cells and will not read
either so It was worth some time.
Right now I am not sure they will even work wwith the numpad mouse keys if I
do manage to get someone to read them.
I'll hang in for a little while before I get sighted help but it looks like
there is just no getting around it. I wonder if these controls are Windows
Framework controls or if they are some derrivitive of a system 32 basic
control. If the former there should be more information but then I would
have expected MS to have used the framework CheckListBox instead of a
ListBox as the container control.
Anyway, I'm getting pooped so am going to sign off for now.
Later and thanks for the Sunday Classes:
Rick USA 

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