Hello rick, I hope that I am speling your nhame correctly.but I am in the process of launching a new venture , and I may need a smart scriptor like yourself, once I have the application I am looking for to be scripted , if we could just discuss privately off the gw list. I was wondering how I could contact you to discuss a few matters. I would appreciate it if you could get back to me as promptly as possible.
-----Original Message----- From: RicksPlace [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 8:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Getting Software to Script Hi Guys: I agree that trial versions would be problematic since a pro app would require maintenance and support for downlevel versions for awhile after upgrades. I guess the thing to do is to develop on a contract basis where the folks who want something scripted poney up for the software necessary to do the job. Even without charging anything for my work the cost of professional versions of major software is quite expensive so not in my range of things I can do without clients at least picking up the costs of the software. If I develop for myself I would, and always have, been glad to share my work as a hobbiest but when you start talking about Adobe Studios or Microsoft Enterprise versions or IBM anythings I justcan't afford to spend thousands to help them out; And, ReCapturing the costs by selling to a handful of WE users wouldn't be practicle. So, as you guys mentioned, if someone needs something scripted and is willing to provide the necessary development environment I will consider spending time to try and script something for them.Otherwise it will be up to folks with deeper pockets than mine to do the job and I will continue to work as a hobbiest sharing what I can to help out. By the way, I was an experienced Professional Programmer and DB Analyst and hold a couple of Degrees so it's not like I am just a amature hacker even though these days I consider myself a hobbiest. Rick USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Jared Wright To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:40 AM Subject: Re: Getting Software to Script The hitch with trials is you lose the ability to support/maintain the app after your trial period has expired. Not that it isn't a worthwhile idea, I'm actually apping something with trial software only right now, but thought that caveat warranted a mention. On 5/4/2011 9:14 AM, Chip Orange wrote: Hi Rick, the only thing I can suggest is to check each product for a trial version. if it comes with one with a nag screen, it might suit your purposes. the other approach is to fund your own, or find a partner who's willing to go into business, and buy your own product and sell the resulting apps to recover your costs. I did have someone approach me about doing just that, so presumably there are individuals out there. hth, Chip ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RicksPlace [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 5:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Getting Software to Script Hi: I want to do some scripting on some professional software for folks who will use the scripts at work or school.Is there a foundation or agency who will provide Third Party software to scriptors for script development? I am thinking about the more expensive packages like the Visual Studio Pro versions and above, the IBM Interfaces, emulators and all that jazz as well as transcription software and other packages that need to be made more accessible to blind folks. The problem is that even to do some serious analysis on a product a scriptor needs to have the product, often prohibitively expensive for the number of scripts that might be sold, and then the scriptor has to find some way to use the product in an environment similar to a typical workplace. This is also dificult since testing a Terminal Emulator or other Mainframe Accessibility tools would not only require having all the necessary hardware and software but a willing host with one or more typical mainframe computers to connect to for testing heavy features like IMS, ISPF, CICS and languages like COBOL etc... There are the Adobe Products and all these product lines have many product choices that would need to be looked at if popular in the visually centered workplace - especially Government where there is suppose to be some serious accessibility qualifications to purchassing or contracting of hardware and software products. My question is if anyone knows of a source of funding for scriptors willing to put in the time and effort to develop scripts. It takes allot of time to analyze and develop a script for a product like Visual Studio and I am sure other product lines from IBM and others. Just to buy a full copy of the Visual Studio would cost about a grand plus the cost of WE plus the cost of the computer, internet connection and any other support software to develop and maintain a script for that product.I can see it easily costing around 2 grand to have a high quality setup with the necessary software and if a scriptor sold say 10 copies in a year the cost would be 2 hundred just to try and break even. The hours required would likely be 1,000 to a full 2,000 hours to get that puppy hunting at a professional level with good documentation and sample packages. At ten dollars an hour the minimum cost would be $10,000 plus the cost of the development environment @ $2,000 for a minimum annual cost of $12,000. So for the 10 units to be sold the first year the cost would be $1,200 per copy. I don't think anyone would pay that. They would just suffer along, not go into this field or use another Screen Reader choice if it were any better. I think they would think anyone asking that kind of money would be nuts - and I would agree. So, there needs to be funding if development on serious Professionally used software is to be done. Folks already working in the field do not have the time to learn scripting and then script any seriously complex software as mentioned above so currently have to find other choices. That is where I am at right now. I have older hardware and software and need to upgrade but can't see just spending the very, very limited resources my family has on more amature software like VB.net or VWD which is what most free amature users use, me too currently. Well, if you know of funding sources or a place where Accessibility Workeres can get copies of expensive software at least, let me know. Thanks: Rick USA
