Hi Bruce,

What about switching to the WE cursor (Numpad minus); isn’t this the 
Window-Eyes screen browser?

Take care,

Rod 

From: BX 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:17 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: WEFramework - Feature requests

Hi Rick,

    What I was thinking of is Windoweyes responds to data coming in. so, the 
displays are there, highlighted, but still there, and once loaded onto the 
screen then read them, not while there moving!

    This seems like a simple fix, using a browse mode with the cursor keys to 
read all of them, but browse mode only works for the web pages. But is this not 
what JAWS does all the time?

    In other words get a browse mode for the screen, just like the mouse, but 
storing the page as it develops and read everything, or selected colors, that 
would be useful and seems like very workable.

    Now Aaron, does not Windoweyes store all page activity as it is being 
displayed?

    The 2010 or probably 2012, all hints are in there own colors and such and 
seems like they would be easy to read along with all other screen data...

    For at the moment all Windoweyes does is go from control to control text 
field or where the focus is only; usually a text field...

    Something to think about and maybe even work on.

    Thanks Rick, I needed to explain what I meant a little better.

        Bruce

  Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:29 AM
  Subject: Re: WEFramework - Feature requests

  Hi Kate and Bruce:
  Is it a problem of speech speed or of reading the window(s) before the window 
is fully formed with messages?
  I remember something about this and Aaron using a timer to wait for the 
events to finish. That is If I remember correctly since it has been some time 
now since I looked at scripting that puppy.
  I was going to get a new development machine with windows 8 but am waiting 
for now since I had to spend over a grand on a tooth - ouch! and WE with 
Windows 8 is still a little shaky from what I've been reading and VS is one of 
the more complex applications to try and work with for WE and for us to try and 
script.
  But try using a timer to delay reading if that is how Aaron did it back in 
the day...
  Rick USA
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: BX 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:28 PM
    Subject: Re: WEFramework - Feature requests

    Hi Katherine!

        I thought that was the case. It would seem that Windoweyes has to slow 
down it's response time to VS 2010 or 2012 in order for any hints are placed on 
the screen and Windoweyes then can capture them. I just think it should be a 
simple fix, just a slower response time or another mechanism to do speech 
delay...
        Aaron is there going to be a fix?

            Bruce

      Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:07 PM
      Subject: RE: WEFramework - Feature requests


      Guys, I’m going to actually check on the VS 2012 intelisense; I keep 
forgetting that I normally use Vs 2012 with an alternative screen reader, and I 
sometimes forget that not everyone has that advantage.  And I’m sort of a VS 
junky anyway, so sometimes I suggest it without checking it out since it always 
works for me with either JAWS or System Access.  But the lockup thingo should 
be fixed in the next update if Vs can work with other screen readers like JAWS 
and have no problems with the render of the intelisense.  

       

      From: Aaron Smith [mailto:[email protected]] 
      Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 8:19 AM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: WEFramework - Feature requests

       

      These are good suggestions, David. I've added them to the wish list.

      Thanks,

      Aaron

      On 4/7/2013 6:37 PM, David wrote:

        I wonder, if a couple of features could have been implemented with the 
GW WEFramework app.

         

        First of all, every time I am to start out a new project, I will be 
going through the wizzard. This wizzard is nice, except from it keeping asking 
me info, that would be quite similar for every new project. For instance, my 
name, email and so forth, would be standard the same, no matter which project I 
am starting out. Would it be an idea, for the app to store these infos, in the 
ini file. Next time I start a new project, it then would suggest (or 
auto-fill-in the proper fields), this info in the wizzard. That would make the 
wizzard even more smooth and quick in usage. And, I could always change the 
info, should I for some reason want it to be different for a given project. 
That is, the app would automatically fill in the stored info in the proper 
fields, yet still show me the screens, that I could change whatever info I 
wanted. At least, it would save me from retyping the same info every new 
project.

         

        The other request I have, has to do with the final screen of the app. 
Here, you are offered to open the project file itself, or the XML file - in 
Notepad. Well, why not let the app do a quick test, checking if the UI Design 
app is currently running. That way, when I hit the Open button for the XML, it 
would be loaded directly into UI Design. If UI Design is not currently running 
on the computer and user, the XML could always be loaded into Notepad. But, 
long as the Design app is running, I really don't see the benefit of being 
offered from the Framework, to load the XML file into Notepad.

         

        Further, could there have been a way, for the Framework to offer to 
"Add On New Functionality" to an existing project. Recently, when updating the 
Extended Dictionary project of mine, I had to add on a new hotkey to the 
script. I thought I had made all the necessary changes, but happened to have 
overlooked one spot, causing the new hotkey not to work properly. If now, the 
Framework app had offered me a chance, of loading the existing project, and 
then adding a new hotkey, making all the necessary changes for me, that would 
have been saving me for some debugging. Likewise, when you start out a new 
project, the Framework does offer you the chance of including different 
features from the GWToolkit. But, what if you are not sure, when you start out 
with a project that later on will increase in functionality, which of the 
features you will eventually happen to need. Allright, the safest way, would of 
course be - as it stands today - to simply add on all the features listed. 
Then, they are all available for later usage. But that results in an 
exergerated huge script, and would maybe even pose a heavier load on the 
system, from what was really needed. Again, if I at a later state, could have 
let the framework add on the necessary lines for any new GWToolkit feature, to 
an existing project, that would have been really helpful.

         

         

        Hope all of this makes sense, and that it would be possible to have 
these updates to the Framework app, which really is a great tool for us, when 
developing new projects.





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