My thing about this is that if JAWS and System Access don't have this problem, 
then why should Window-Eyes?  And Window-Eyes on windows 8 is not shaky at all; 
I use it, and I love it.

From: RicksPlace [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: WEFramework - Feature requests

Hi Kate and Bruce:
Is it a problem of speech speed or of reading the window(s) before the window 
is fully formed with messages?
I remember something about this and Aaron using a timer to wait for the events 
to finish. That is If I remember correctly since it has been some time now 
since I looked at scripting that puppy.
I was going to get a new development machine with windows 8 but am waiting for 
now since I had to spend over a grand on a tooth - ouch! and WE with Windows 8 
is still a little shaky from what I've been reading and VS is one of the more 
complex applications to try and work with for WE and for us to try and script.
But try using a timer to delay reading if that is how Aaron did it back in the 
day...
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: BX<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: WEFramework - Feature requests

Hi Katherine<mailto:[email protected]>!

    I thought that was the case. It would seem that Windoweyes has to slow down 
it's response time to VS 2010 or 2012 in order for any hints are placed on the 
screen and Windoweyes then can capture them. I just think it should be a simple 
fix, just a slower response time or another mechanism to do speech delay...
    Aaron is there going to be a fix?

        Bruce

Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:07 PM
Subject: RE: WEFramework - Feature requests

Guys, I'm going to actually check on the VS 2012 intelisense; I keep forgetting 
that I normally use Vs 2012 with an alternative screen reader, and I sometimes 
forget that not everyone has that advantage.  And I'm sort of a VS junky 
anyway, so sometimes I suggest it without checking it out since it always works 
for me with either JAWS or System Access.  But the lockup thingo should be 
fixed in the next update if Vs can work with other screen readers like JAWS and 
have no problems with the render of the intelisense.

From: Aaron Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 8:19 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: WEFramework - Feature requests

These are good suggestions, David. I've added them to the wish list.

Thanks,

Aaron
On 4/7/2013 6:37 PM, David wrote:
I wonder, if a couple of features could have been implemented with the GW 
WEFramework app.

First of all, every time I am to start out a new project, I will be going 
through the wizzard. This wizzard is nice, except from it keeping asking me 
info, that would be quite similar for every new project. For instance, my name, 
email and so forth, would be standard the same, no matter which project I am 
starting out. Would it be an idea, for the app to store these infos, in the ini 
file. Next time I start a new project, it then would suggest (or auto-fill-in 
the proper fields), this info in the wizzard. That would make the wizzard even 
more smooth and quick in usage. And, I could always change the info, should I 
for some reason want it to be different for a given project. That is, the app 
would automatically fill in the stored info in the proper fields, yet still 
show me the screens, that I could change whatever info I wanted. At least, it 
would save me from retyping the same info every new project.

The other request I have, has to do with the final screen of the app. Here, you 
are offered to open the project file itself, or the XML file - in Notepad. 
Well, why not let the app do a quick test, checking if the UI Design app is 
currently running. That way, when I hit the Open button for the XML, it would 
be loaded directly into UI Design. If UI Design is not currently running on the 
computer and user, the XML could always be loaded into Notepad. But, long as 
the Design app is running, I really don't see the benefit of being offered from 
the Framework, to load the XML file into Notepad.

Further, could there have been a way, for the Framework to offer to "Add On New 
Functionality" to an existing project. Recently, when updating the Extended 
Dictionary project of mine, I had to add on a new hotkey to the script. I 
thought I had made all the necessary changes, but happened to have overlooked 
one spot, causing the new hotkey not to work properly. If now, the Framework 
app had offered me a chance, of loading the existing project, and then adding a 
new hotkey, making all the necessary changes for me, that would have been 
saving me for some debugging. Likewise, when you start out a new project, the 
Framework does offer you the chance of including different features from the 
GWToolkit. But, what if you are not sure, when you start out with a project 
that later on will increase in functionality, which of the features you will 
eventually happen to need. Allright, the safest way, would of course be - as it 
stands today - to simply add on all the features listed. Then, they are all 
available for later usage. But that results in an exergerated huge script, and 
would maybe even pose a heavier load on the system, from what was really 
needed. Again, if I at a later state, could have let the framework add on the 
necessary lines for any new GWToolkit feature, to an existing project, that 
would have been really helpful.


Hope all of this makes sense, and that it would be possible to have these 
updates to the Framework app, which really is a great tool for us, when 
developing new projects.


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Aaron Smith

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