Hi!
I use to have a book covering this code but never used it. If you are a
Braille user it is OK, complex but OK, if you have to use it.
The Unicode cross-reference would be great. Having the code list and a
corresponding code would be the best way for Windoweyes to speak it.
Will look up mathml and see what HTML says about it at Microsoft.
I took a break, a friend called and wanted breakfast. Just getting back
into it. I have a version to upload on Breaking News and will upload it, but
still not the best to have but workable.
I could upload a text version but do not want to encourage hackers
Bruce
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: WE and Advanced Math and Science Symbols
You might want to look at Nemith code, a braille way of interpretscienfic
notation.
Best wishes,
Jonathan
On Mar 8, 2014, at 10:54 AM, RicksPlace <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Again:
Googling I found these tags are related to font definitions.
Several versions are mentioned in a couple of articles so far:
Mathematical Notation: LaTeX, Mathematica, HTML Entities, Unicode
Do you know if these are a standard font thingy and should either my
browser or WindowEyes be automatically picking them up and speaking them in the
correct manner?
Perhaps my browser is too old, not sure.
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: RicksPlace
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: WE and Advanced Math and Science Symbols
Hi Guys:
Thought Id start with Wikipedia since it covers allot of general
descriptions - not a teaching tool but an explanitory tool.
Now, symbols seem to be represented by some kind of standardized use of
tags.
Do you recognize the use of the tags below as a standardized methodology
of some sort and, if so, what is it called?
I put in a few examples so someone might recognize something.
<BeginSamples>
Vector notation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
the common
typographic convention
is upright boldface type, as in
\mathbf{v}
OK guys here they are just displaying {V} but use a prefix tag:
\mathbf
...
Another example:
or unwieldy, vectors are often represented with
right-pointing arrow notation or harpoons
above their names, as in
\vec{v}
Here they use a tag:
\vec
before the actual math of {v}
...
Another example:
A rectangular vector in
\mathbb{R}^n
can be specified using an ordered
set
of components, enclosed in either parentheses or angle brackets.
In a general sense, an n-dimensional vector v
can be specified in either of the following forms:
\mathbf{v} = (v_1, v_2, \dots, v_{n - 1}, v_n)
\mathbf{v} = \langle v_1, v_2, \dots, v_{n - 1}, v_n \rangle
Where v1, v2, …, vn − 1, vn are the components of v.
Matrix notation
[
edit
]
A rectangular vector in
\mathbb{R}^n
can also be specified as a row or column
matrix
containing the ordered set of components. A vector specified as a row
matrix is
known as a
row vector
; one specified as a column matrix is known as a
column vector
.
Again, an n-dimensional vector
\mathbf{v}
can be specified in either of the following forms using matrices:
\mathbf{v} = \left[ \begin{matrix} v_1 & v_2 & \cdots & v_{n - 1} & v_n
\end{matrix}
\right] = \left( \begin{matrix} v_1 & v_2 & \cdots & v_{n - 1} & v_n
\end{matrix}
\right)
\mathbf{v} = \left[ \begin{matrix} v_1 \\ v_2 \\ \vdots \\ v_{n - 1} \\
v_n \end{matrix}
\right]= \left( \begin{matrix} v_1 \\ v_2 \\ \vdots \\ v_{n - 1} \\ v_n
\end{matrix}
\right)
Where v1, v2, …, vn − 1, vn are the components of v
. In some advanced contexts, a row and a column vector have different
meaning; see
covariance and contravariance of vectors
.
Unit vector notation
[
edit
]
A rectangular vector in
\mathbb{R}^3
(or fewer dimensions, such as
\mathbb{R}^2
where vz
below is zero) can be specified as the sum of the scalar multiples of
the components
of the vector with the members of the standard
basis
in
\mathbb{R}^3
. The basis is represented with the
unit vectors
\boldsymbol{\hat{\imath}} = (1, 0, 0)
,
\boldsymbol{\hat{\jmath}} = (0, 1, 0)
, and
\boldsymbol{\hat{k}} = (0, 0, 1)
.
A three-dimensional vector v can be specified in the following form,
using unit vector
notation:
\mathbf{v} = v_x \boldsymbol{\hat{\imath}} + v_y
\boldsymbol{\hat{\jmath}} + v_z
\boldsymbol{\hat{k}}
Where vx, vy, and vz are the magnitudes of the components of v.
Polar vectors
[
edit
]
wiki/File:CircularCoordinates.svg
It goes on to other vectors for circles etc...
<EndOfSamples>
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: LB
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: WE and Advanced Math and Science Symbols
Hi Rick,
I guess having standard symbols for the math, then splitting each
up, isolating them, then using a graphics label for each, store them in your
set file and such, then go from there. Just a thought, but seems like a simple
way to do it.
Most equations use the sup script and such for integrals and can be
messy at times but not impossible. But think standard symbols may be a problem
at the publishers end. But in a set file you can sort them out based on the
publishers usage.
Most equations use hyperbolic math for nothing goes in a straight
line in physics. That can result in lots of funny math. But keep in mind that
all particles are waves and you can always wave back...:)
The reality of our universe is all stuff is on a plain and that
plain is infinite in nature, in other words take a book and stack it's pages on
into infinity and each page is a plain, but so small you could never find it,
but when trying to get them apart you kind of get a nuclear bomb, for they do
not want to be bothered and have the strength to prove it.
touch one part of that thin sheet and it responds back some where,
the spooky thing Einstein's discovered in relativity. It is like watching a
insect on the surface of a lake or body of water and watch it vibrate...surface
tension.
Enough about god and where he is, he is just every where. A part of
each sheet stacked forever.
Bruce
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 6:46 AM
Subject: WE and Advanced Math and Science Symbols
Hi:
What is it about screen readers where they have so much trouble
reading advanced math and, or, science characters?
For example, what about the Calcus symbols or the standard ones often
used in describing the EM Field variables?
Has anyone ever done anything trying to write a script for say either
a book reader or even internet pages to make the equations read well?
I have been looking at many sites lately related to quantum mechanics
and light and found many, all?, sites using equations where either I get a line
of characters that dont make sense to me or a blank space where a given symbol,
image?, is located within the equations.
I know there are third party packages that might, repeat might, work
perhaps with braille but why cant a screen reader like WindowEyes with it's
attendant dictionaries be used to read these pages or books?
I am wondering if the pages or software could be scripted in some way
to make advanced math and science equations readable with WindowEyes.
Just a consideration at this point and not even a thought of being a
scripting project but just the question of why it hasent been done by the
screen reader companies and if anyone has ever tried to script something to
enable it for WindowEyes in the past.
Rick USA
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