Hi. What did you do to Visual Studio 2013 to make it work? I am finding that intellisense does not work, and if I press tab it goes to some strange place and the end key goes to another file. I can certainly read the actual code. I am using c# rather than vb.net. What options did you change to make it work better with screen readers?
Rick Thomas <ofbgm...@mi.rr.com> wrote: > Hi Bruce: > Visual Studio or any of the free modules have to be setup for accessibility > with a screen reader. > That said it works quite well once setup and the rather large learning curve > is mastered. > I use vb.net 2013 for Desktop with few problems with WindowEyes out of the > box except with the forms designer and the lack of support for reading line > numbers as in prior versions of Visual Studio related products. > After reading Aarons reply to this thread I am not sure this discussion is > worth much except where someone might want to learn another language for > their own personal use. > If he is correct and VBScript might be supported for many years to come > VBScript offers the general scriptor the best and most intuitive way to do > some app development. > Since I havent done much scripting recently I have no dog in this race > anyway. > If I create a app that doesn't require the use of the WE Object model I work > in vb.net for the most part. > If I end up working on something the WE Model I will consider my options at > that time. > Later and, again, congratulations on your project. > Rick USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: LBX [mailto:lab...@fltg.net] > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 10:14 AM > To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com > Subject: Re: VBScript Alternatives > > Hi Rick, > > Yes, the .net I had taken 2 courses last year on them. The issues are > the readability of the menu's... > > The Python is OK but has reading an Issue using a screen reader. Modules > are version specific, based on what version of the C++ library and Windows > keeps changing it, so you have to be aware of it. > Now the based way to avoid them is keeping a stable version of Python > but modules are a pain when having to keep track of the version it was > compiled under. > > > The .net is OK to use, you also have to pay attention to what is focused > when inserting code and such. > > but if the WE module were to go to that, maybe we could end up with a > better reader for the .net menus which could make everyone happy. > > Chip had done this with the VBA and using the Word ability to list the > code choices. That would also be the way to go with the .net, having an easy > list of events and such to insert into the code at the cursor location and > such. > > Power Shell allows for the shell commands which is like Python and such, > but it is a way to go to get access to the Windows Com and such. But shell > has limitations in terms of display and screen events... > > If you get into Python, you will find it is an entirely different animal > and as you noted, indenting is a pain for screen reader programs unless you > turn on the space count feature, then you will get a lot more talking which > can end up being annoying. At least it would tell you how many spaces of > indent you have for Python, besides the arrow key movement when going up or > down; where blank lines mess up that ability to align things. > > So I think the .net is the way to go when Windows decides to get rid of > VbScript. For we as programmers could have easier usage of the C++ to write > apps with; making the code run much fast with less issues of timing and such > for events. > > Bruce > > > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 9:54 AM > Subject: RE: VBScript Alternatives > > > Hi Bruce: The 2 takeaways I got was that Python UI is not all that > accessible for screen reader users and that indentation is important which > is also a pain to track while programming for blind programmers. > Otherwise I am not a fan of "Open Source" modules since they tend to not > consider accessibility by most non visually impaired users and once a > developer creates a module they tend to stop support of the module over time > as they get involved in other things. > But, if Python supports com efficiently and the UI can be made very > accessible to screen reader users I don't see why it may not be a candidate. > Actually, I lean twoard the .net framework but that may just be my personal > background in it and based on my lack of deep knowledge of other languages I > don't know if there would be a better choice. > If GW goes in the .net direction we could put together some documentation, > some tutorials and perhaps, like Chip, some classes in learning to script > using whatever .net language was recommended IE vb.net, c# or C++ etc... > Rick USA > > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
