The fact that we're growing is a great thing . . .don't we want more people embracing this thing called cycling we love so much? The majority of us are used to signing a waiver so it ain't no big deal to me.
On Mar 1, 6:15 pm, [email protected] wrote: > I think we are getting too big and making things complicated. > Fernando > > In a message dated 3/1/2010 6:09:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > A Waiver is basically a release of liability. Just because a company > carries Liability insurance does not mean that they are agreeing to be liable > for every action that a human being can undertake in any endeavor associated > with said company! > > But, it is impossible to release anyone, or any company from complete > liability, and this is where you want the coverage. At my fitness center I am > all too aware that even though every member that works out here has signed a > waiver that releases us from just about any action taken by a member while > in the act of "working out", we can still be sued, or, held liable. > > Example: 2 members are working out on the bench press; one is benching, > and the other is spotting. The spotter is distracted; meanwhile the lifter > looses his grip and drops the weight on his chest and gets seriously injured. > I would feel somewhat confident that our waiver would hold up in court > (and, it most certainly would go to court!), but it might not. This is why > you > have the insurance. And, a strong legal team. Because you might lose. > > A very good defense attorney would make things very difficult for this > legal team. What if it was found that the spotter was instructed on spotting > from one of the fitness center's trainers? What if the spotter was distracted > because he lost his footing on the step-up platform? > > In case you are wondering, this is a real situation...it did not happen at > my center, but I am sure some of you saw this on you tube... > > ---- slow down <[email protected]> wrote:> Call me stupid, but I don't > understand...OK, the club has liability > > insurance, but everyone has to sign a waiver of liability. What's the > > point? > > > On Mar 1, 9:03 am, "Tony" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > G's, > > > > I want to update everyone on what our club has been doing to address > > the growing pains that we have been experiencing. > > > > Well, we are now members of USA Cycling. As a member, we can now get > > club liability insurance through this organization. I have not received an > email yet from the insurnace carrier as a check was mailed middle of last > week but I suspect that I will get notice at some point this week that we > are covered for the rest of 2010. > > > > Here is the link showing the kind of coverage we will have: > > > > http://www.usacycling.org/forms/ClubInsurance.pdf > > > > Now, since we will have club insurance, the forms that you all have > > been signing the last couple of Saturdays are WAIVER forms. (Don't worry, no > one has signed over their homes). I have attached a copy of the waiver > so everyone can read it over. I will also attach or have the ride leaders > attach a waiver to each of their ride posts. This means that if you have > not signed a waiver yet, PLEASE DO SO BEFORE YOU PARITICIPATE IN ANOTHER GYRO > RIDE. You can either send me a pdf of the signed waiver via my email: > [email protected] or bring it to one of the rides and give it to the ride > leader. DO NOT assume that this will be the ride leaders responsibility > to make sure you sign a form. It is YOUR responsibility and since ride > leaders occasionally ride to a ride, I would suggest sending me a signed form > in pdf format. If a ride leader drives to a ride, I would hope that they > will have some of these forms on hand and will ask that you sign one if you > haven't already. > > > > We already have about 40 signed waiver forms. > > > > One note here for the ride leaders, (this includes ALL Gyro weekday > > rides too): You are not held responsible for anything should a person show > up for a ride who has not signed a waiver. I know that question will come > up so do not worry as I have clarified this with the insurance company. If > someone has not signed a waiver and there is bodily or property damage and > they are not members of the club then they are on their own. No one is > held responsible. > > > > Now, this note to the ride leaders above does open up a can of worms. > > Question is, "Who do we distinquish as members of the club?" Since we do > not have membership dues, that is left up to my discretion. This is too > wide open. Basically, what I am saying is that we will be headed down the > path soon with regard to membership fees. I can not handle that on my own > and will therefore ask that if there is anyone who would like to volunteer to > head up a membership committee, please let me know offline as there are > things I will need to discuss with them. A club survives by volunteers so > PLEASE volunteer!!!!! > > > > All clubs charge a membership fee to help cover expenses. We should > > be no different. I was trying to hold off doing this for as long as > possible but we are just growing too fast and need to start acting the part. > > > > I hope that I covered everything but, if not, I'll send an update. > > If anyone has any questions regarding any of the above, please do not > hesitate to ask. > > > > > > Thanks, Tony > > > > Gyros Waiver & Liabillity Form.pdf > > > 153KViewDownload > > > -- > > You received this message because you subscribed to the Gyro email group. > > To post to this group, send an email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe, send an email to [email protected] > > -- > You received this message because you subscribed to the Gyro email group. > To post to this group, send an email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe, send an email to [email protected] -- You received this message because you subscribed to the Gyro email group. 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