Not to worry here. It is never the fault of the dog. Though the dog may have certain tendencies, it is always the fault of the owner, either through ignorance, neglect, or carelessness. Sometimes unfortunately, especially in this area, Pit Bull fighting is very common and therefore there are more roaming the streets, though any dog can be a danger, even a Yorkie (well not to a cyclist) but you get my drift.
I am lover of Pit Bulls btw and have no issues with the "dangerous breeds" we hear about occasionally. It is how the animals are raised and cared for and trained. Ultimately it is the owner's responsibility to ensure the safety and welfare of both their animal and others as well. mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:35 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Tony Subject: [Gyros: 15062] Re: dog chasing...it is not the fault of the dog... I understand the frustration that we face with this issue, but please do not place the blame on the dogs. What I wish Tony would have said is that he is sick of "irresponsible dog owners". Grace and I have a beautiful German Shepherd named Pre, and we live in a dog friendly complex. In every single case where there are issues with dogs it is because of irresponsible dog owners. Dogs do exactly and precisely what they think that they should do to please their owners. Pre does not attack other dogs, nor is he aggressive toward people because we have trained him not to be, (well, he also getting older) and, we take the responsibility of not placing him a position where he could injure someone. Cyclists are perfectly safe around our dog. Children are perfectly safe playing around our home. This is because we take care of our dog. If we wanted to, we could leave him off leash and encourage his natural territorial instincts. We understand our breed of dog. Male German Shepherds are a wolf breed and an alpha. They are excellent predators. Cats would be extinct at our complex if we let him have his way. Other dogs would come by and kiss his paw while saying: "Don-Pre", and they would leave treats at our door step as a show of respect if we let him have his way. But we don't. He is a domestic pet now, and not in the wild, so he has to know that his predatory instincts must be kept in check. We know that we have not removed these instincts completely, and dogs are still unpredictable, so we keep him on leash at all times when outdoors, and in our control. In every case where we are chased by dogs it is the owners who do not have control of their pet. Not only do they put us at danger, but they jeopardize the safety of their dog. It makes us crazy when we see the results of lousy dog owners manifested in attacks on people. Whenever you place a complaint to Animal Control please let them know that in your opinion it was the action of the dog owner that created the situation. No dog should be off leash if they have shown that they will protect their "territory" from danger by attacking the "invaders". This is what they will do because they are creatures of instinct unable to change their destiny unless dog owners show them how. By the way, I would not suggest entering our home unannounced, or uninvited. Pre will attack you. He is trained to do this, it is instinctive within this breed, and we do not discourage him from protecting us in our home. If you call and you are invited he will check you out, and if he sees that it is ok with us it will be ok with him. Ok...I feel better now. ---- Tony <[email protected]> wrote: > Mary, > > Please keep us posted as to her response. We are on Baptist every Sunday and I've had my fill of dogs. > > Tony > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mary dorsey > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:33 PM > Subject: RE: [Gyros: 15058] Re: dog chasing on Rollingview > > > In reading the account below, it is the same house. Fortunately our Dukepark listserv is very close with the animal control director of Durham Co. and I can report this to her now that I know the basic address. Now I remember reading about this earlier and this info will help her. Glad that you reported it. > > > > Thanks everyone > > mary > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joel Weinberger > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 5:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Gyros: 15056] Re: dog chasing on Rollingview > > > > FWIW, the Trek store sells mace that shots something like a 10 foot stream in order to "persuade" a dog into retreat. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:40 PM > > Subject: Re: [Gyros: 15053] Re: dog chasing on Rollingview > > > > Mitch, I know some people would not agree with this but I carry mase for this very reason. I know you can not use it while on the bike but if there is a standoff or attack while I am down it will come in handy. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > To: North Raleigh Cyclists (Gyros) <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:29 pm > Subject: [Gyros: 15052] Re: dog chasing on Rollingview > > That dog belongs to a Hispanic family that lives in a house just afterthe golf course ends on the right.I was not chased by that dog, but I was caught unaware and taken downby another pitbull very close to that home.I spoke with the people at the house and saw the dog Mary describes inthe backyard when I was trying to locate the owner of the dog that gotme. I reported it to durham animal control as well. Here's the full story: I was "just riding along" Baptist road with Jason, to my right Inoticed to dogs running along side us, a big Pit Bull and a smallermutt. I didn't pay much attention since they were behind a fence. afew seconds later Jason said "he's coming out" and as I glanced down,WHAM! the Pit Bull hit my bike. He bit and pawed at my front wheel,which caused me to do a microsecond-endo. when I got back to my feet,the Pit Bull was still caught up in my front wheel. His paw waswrapped around my spokes and pinned hard against the right fork leg.He was barking, yelping, and making really horrible noises. I didn't know at first if I was going to try to get him free, becauseI was a little worried about what he would do to me if he got free.Then I though that I was going to have to kill the beast with my barehands didn't know how I could pull that off... Abandoning the bike wasNOT an option, so I decided to try to get the very pissed off Pit Bullout of my wheel. (All this thinking took place in about 1.5 seconds) Itried to rotate the wheel back to free his leg, which didn't work atall. The dog continued yelping and thrashing and then began to bite atthe right fork leg. The only other option for me was to get the wheelout. I started unscrewing the quick release, with my hands only acouple of inches from this beast's mouth as he was chompingfrantically at the fork of my bike. I managed to get the skewer outand started to beat the wheel to get it out of the dropouts. Afterabout three good whacks to the wheel, two things happened at once, thewheel came free, and the Pit Bull finished chewing through the fork,SNAP! the dog was loose. I was ready to defend myself against aninjured Pit Bull now.... Luckily he decided that he decided "Flight" was better than "Fight"and he went down the road, almost falling over on his hurt leg. Two hunters were passing in their truck and gave me a ride home, Iescaped with just a scraped knee... and a destroyed wheel and fork. On Mar 17, 3:24 pm, <[email protected]> wrote:> Mary> > Baptist Road is in Durham County.> > Bert> > ---- mary dorsey <[email protected]> wrote:> > > I apologize for not posting this to the list earlier. I rode at Rollingview> > on Baptist weekend before last and was chased by a female, non spayed> > pitbull from some house on the right going towards the Marina. The dog had> > clearly had a litter not that long ago and appeared to have some scars on> > her face. There were about 6 people out in the yard and they eventually> > called the dog over to them. I did not see the dog on my way back. Do any> > of you know this dog and if Rollinview is within Durham or Wake county? I> > want to report it to animal control. 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