Nicely stated.
---- mary dorsey <[email protected]> wrote: > Not to worry here. It is never the fault of the dog. Though the dog may > have certain tendencies, it is always the fault of the owner, either through > ignorance, neglect, or carelessness. Sometimes unfortunately, especially in > this area, Pit Bull fighting is very common and therefore there are more > roaming the streets, though any dog can be a danger, even a Yorkie (well not > to a cyclist) but you get my drift. > > I am lover of Pit Bulls btw and have no issues with the "dangerous breeds" > we hear about occasionally. It is how the animals are raised and cared for > and trained. Ultimately it is the owner's responsibility to ensure the > safety and welfare of both their animal and others as well. > > mary > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Tony > Subject: [Gyros: 15062] Re: dog chasing...it is not the fault of the dog... > > > I understand the frustration that we face with this issue, but please do not > place the blame on the dogs. What I wish Tony would have said is that he is > sick of "irresponsible dog owners". > > Grace and I have a beautiful German Shepherd named Pre, and we live in a dog > friendly complex. In every single case where there are issues with dogs it > is because of irresponsible dog owners. Dogs do exactly and precisely what > they think that they should do to please their owners. Pre does not attack > other dogs, nor is he aggressive toward people because we have trained him > not to be, (well, he also getting older) and, we take the responsibility of > not placing him a position where he could injure someone. > > > Cyclists are perfectly safe around our dog. Children are perfectly safe > playing around our home. This is because we take care of our dog. If we > wanted to, we could leave him off leash and encourage his natural > territorial instincts. > > We understand our breed of dog. Male German Shepherds are a wolf breed and > an alpha. They are excellent predators. Cats would be extinct at our complex > if we let him have his way. Other dogs would come by and kiss his paw while > saying: "Don-Pre", and they would leave treats at our door step as a show of > respect if we let him have his way. > > But we don't. He is a domestic pet now, and not in the wild, so he has to > know that his predatory instincts must be kept in check. We know that we > have not removed these instincts completely, and dogs are still > unpredictable, so we keep him on leash at all times when outdoors, and in > our control. > > In every case where we are chased by dogs it is the owners who do not have > control of their pet. Not only do they put us at danger, but they jeopardize > the safety of their dog. It makes us crazy when we see the results of lousy > dog owners manifested in attacks on people. > > Whenever you place a complaint to Animal Control please let them know that > in your opinion it was the action of the dog owner that created the > situation. No dog should be off leash if they have shown that they will > protect their "territory" from danger by attacking the "invaders". This is > what they will do because they are creatures of instinct unable to change > their destiny unless dog owners show them how. > > By the way, I would not suggest entering our home unannounced, or uninvited. > Pre will attack you. He is trained to do this, it is instinctive within this > breed, and we do not discourage him from protecting us in our home. If you > call and you are invited he will check you out, and if he sees that it is ok > with us it will be ok with him. > > Ok...I feel better now. > > > > ---- Tony <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mary, > > > > Please keep us posted as to her response. We are on Baptist every Sunday > and I've had my fill of dogs. > > > > Tony > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mary dorsey > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:33 PM > > Subject: RE: [Gyros: 15058] Re: dog chasing on Rollingview > > > > > > In reading the account below, it is the same house. Fortunately our > Dukepark listserv is very close with the animal control director of Durham > Co. and I can report this to her now that I know the basic address. Now I > remember reading about this earlier and this info will help her. Glad that > you reported it. > > > > > > > > Thanks everyone > > > > mary > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Joel Weinberger > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 5:49 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Gyros: 15056] Re: dog chasing on Rollingview > > > > > > > > FWIW, the Trek store sells mace that shots something like a 10 foot > stream in order to "persuade" a dog into retreat. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:40 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [Gyros: 15053] Re: dog chasing on Rollingview > > > > > > > > Mitch, I know some people would not agree with this but I carry mase > for this very reason. I know you can not use it while on the bike but if > there is a standoff or attack while I am down it will come in handy. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > To: North Raleigh Cyclists (Gyros) <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:29 pm > > Subject: [Gyros: 15052] Re: dog chasing on Rollingview > > > > That dog belongs to a Hispanic family that lives in a house just afterthe > golf course ends on the right.I was not chased by that dog, but I was caught > unaware and taken downby another pitbull very close to that home.I spoke > with the people at the house and saw the dog Mary describes inthe backyard > when I was trying to locate the owner of the dog that gotme. I reported it > to durham animal control as well. Here's the full story: I was "just riding > along" Baptist road with Jason, to my right Inoticed to dogs running along > side us, a big Pit Bull and a smallermutt. I didn't pay much attention since > they were behind a fence. afew seconds later Jason said "he's coming out" > and as I glanced down,WHAM! the Pit Bull hit my bike. He bit and pawed at my > front wheel,which caused me to do a microsecond-endo. when I got back to my > feet,the Pit Bull was still caught up in my front wheel. His paw waswrapped > around my spokes and pinned hard against the right fork leg.He was barking, > yelping, and making really horrible noises. I didn't know at first if I was > going to try to get him free, becauseI was a little worried about what he > would do to me if he got free.Then I though that I was going to have to kill > the beast with my barehands didn't know how I could pull that off... > Abandoning the bike wasNOT an option, so I decided to try to get the very > pissed off Pit Bullout of my wheel. (All this thinking took place in about > 1.5 seconds) Itried to rotate the wheel back to free his leg, which didn't > work atall. The dog continued yelping and thrashing and then began to bite > atthe right fork leg. The only other option for me was to get the wheelout. > I started unscrewing the quick release, with my hands only acouple of inches > from this beast's mouth as he was chompingfrantically at the fork of my > bike. I managed to get the skewer outand started to beat the wheel to get it > out of the dropouts. Afterabout three good whacks to the wheel, two things > happened at once, thewheel came free, and the Pit Bull finished chewing > through the fork,SNAP! the dog was loose. I was ready to defend myself > against aninjured Pit Bull now.... Luckily he decided that he decided > "Flight" was better than "Fight"and he went down the road, almost falling > over on his hurt leg. Two hunters were passing in their truck and gave me a > ride home, Iescaped with just a scraped knee... and a destroyed wheel and > fork. On Mar 17, 3:24 pm, <[email protected]> wrote:> Mary> > Baptist > Road is in Durham County.> > Bert> > ---- mary dorsey > <[email protected]> wrote:> > > I apologize for not posting this to > the list earlier. I rode at Rollingview> > on Baptist weekend before last > and was chased by a female, non spayed> > pitbull from some house on the > right going towards the Marina. The dog had> > clearly had a litter not that > long ago and appeared to have some scars on> > her face. There were about > 6 people out in the yard and they eventually> > called the dog over to them. > I did not see the dog on my way back. Do any> > of you know this dog and if > Rollinview is within Durham or Wake county? I> > want to report it to > animal control. 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