Gyro Nation,

After reading this response from "Katie", I have to ask that we all do not take 
the time to respond to something so completely out of line. 

For someone to offer support to a driver who initiated this action, and is 100% 
responsible for the results, is so far beyond anything that I can comprehend 
that it really does not merit a response.

What makes this reponse all the more troubling is that it comes from someone 
who was not on the ride, and, had no first hand account of what actually 
happened. How could you possibly know that the riders on the wheel of the pull 
were overlapping wheels? I am not sure how CAT 2 riders would have responded, 
but, when the front rider is taken out by a vehicle there are going to be 
riders that hit the deck.

And, where did it state in our exchanges that this was a social ride? It is a 
Sunday recovery ride, and, we usually hit that stretch on Carpentar Pd. at a 
pretty good clip. Anyway, whether it is our Race Team, our A riders, or, Mike's 
touring group, the speed of the peloton has no bearing on the abilities of 
riders to know how to "crash" when a careless motorist decides to place their 2 
ton vehicle in our path.

Hasn't "Katie" ever read the horror stories from Lance, Levi, Chris Horner, and 
many of the other top pros on similar situations? Lance mentions numerous 
instances when vehicles have taken him down, and, serious injuries have 
occured. And, everyone in his group were fellow pros and the best bike handlers 
in the world. 

When "drivers go bad' cyclists are always going to take the worst of it. 

I am asking all Gyros not to validate this email by responding. 

Rick



---- Katie <[email protected]> wrote: 
> The driver may have been an "idiot" as you say, but from reading the
> first hand accounts of what actually happened, it's obvious that the
> motor vehicle in question did not contact any of the bike riders. If
> the second bike rider in the pace line had not over lapped the rear
> wheel of the first bike rider in the pace line with her front wheel,
> this probably could have all been avoided.
> 
> I rode race paced training rides with Cat 2/3 Men in California for a
> number of years and it's far safer to ride with a fast race group than
> a slow social group because the racer crowd knows how to ride fast but
> safe, even with traffic buzzing all around.
> 
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