Smith, If you can show me how cyclists at our skill levels can practice our handling skills when we are run off the road by an aggressive driver, I am open to learning!
Basically, what you are all saying is that anyone that desires a bike ride in Raleigh needs to have bike handling skills that allows them to react appropriately when aggressive drivers decide to run them off the road. So much for family rides. Mom and Dad had better have the skills of a cyclo-cross pro before they allow their kids to go riding. And, how do new cyclists develop these skills? Every person who takes up cycling will always be inexperienced at bike handling skills...where do they ride? Wouldn't it be more effective teaching drivers car handling skills? Rick ---- Smith Doss <[email protected]> wrote: > Morning Rick: > I think that you miss the valid point of the email, as a group we > need to try to improve our handling skills. Better handling skill as a > group makes the group safer for all when some unexpected things happen. > I know even the best handling skills can not avoid all situations, but > better skills lessen the risk for everyone. > > Smith > > -- > > Smith Doss and Claude Monnier > > Personal Web Page http://WeTandem.dnsalias.org/ > > > > > On 12/7/2010 09:53, [email protected] wrote: > > Gyro Nation, > > > > After reading this response from "Katie", I have to ask that we all do not > > take the time to respond to something so completely out of line. > > > > For someone to offer support to a driver who initiated this action, and is > > 100% responsible for the results, is so far beyond anything that I can > > comprehend that it really does not merit a response. > > > > What makes this reponse all the more troubling is that it comes from > > someone who was not on the ride, and, had no first hand account of what > > actually happened. How could you possibly know that the riders on the wheel > > of the pull were overlapping wheels? I am not sure how CAT 2 riders would > > have responded, but, when the front rider is taken out by a vehicle there > > are going to be riders that hit the deck. > > > > And, where did it state in our exchanges that this was a social ride? It is > > a Sunday recovery ride, and, we usually hit that stretch on Carpentar Pd. > > at a pretty good clip. Anyway, whether it is our Race Team, our A riders, > > or, Mike's touring group, the speed of the peloton has no bearing on the > > abilities of riders to know how to "crash" when a careless motorist decides > > to place their 2 ton vehicle in our path. > > > > Hasn't "Katie" ever read the horror stories from Lance, Levi, Chris Horner, > > and many of the other top pros on similar situations? Lance mentions > > numerous instances when vehicles have taken him down, and, serious injuries > > have occured. And, everyone in his group were fellow pros and the best bike > > handlers in the world. > > > > When "drivers go bad' cyclists are always going to take the worst of it. > > > > I am asking all Gyros not to validate this email by responding. > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > ---- Katie<[email protected]> wrote: > >> The driver may have been an "idiot" as you say, but from reading the > >> first hand accounts of what actually happened, it's obvious that the > >> motor vehicle in question did not contact any of the bike riders. If > >> the second bike rider in the pace line had not over lapped the rear > >> wheel of the first bike rider in the pace line with her front wheel, > >> this probably could have all been avoided. > >> > >> I rode race paced training rides with Cat 2/3 Men in California for a > >> number of years and it's far safer to ride with a fast race group than > >> a slow social group because the racer crowd knows how to ride fast but > >> safe, even with traffic buzzing all around. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you subscribed to the Gyro email group. > >> To post to this group, send an email to [email protected] > >> To unsubscribe, send an email to [email protected] > > -- > You received this message because you subscribed to the Gyro email group. > To post to this group, send an email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe, send an email to [email protected] -- You received this message because you subscribed to the Gyro email group. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send an email to [email protected]
