I think I will jump in at this point, seeing French Hoods and the like are not my strong point, but holding the Girls in place that I have a lot of experience in. What I would recommend and this is just what I would do. Seeing you are going to be doing the two dress approach, line the under bodice in a stout fabric, with a little stretch, Denim or a thick twill. Then line the outer dress in something stiff, Buckram or the Interfacing, and some bones along the front and sides, not too many just a few to keep things smooth. Also I would make the skirt on the under bodice out of again something stiff, or something that is easy to starch. Clear as mud I am sure. The idea being that the under bodice will help support the Girls and hold them in place, while the stiff outer bodice gives the line you are looking for without a lot of pinching and pulling. Sounds a little strange but I fee that is how it was done in period.

Stephen

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My first dilemma is whether or not I need a set of bodies and a farthingale. I've read opinions that say yes you need them and I've read opinions that say no, you can live with a stiffly lined bodice and a petticoat(s) and that evidence in wardrobe accounts didn't show these undergarments until after 1540-1550. If I can avoid the corset and farthingale with period justification, I would be thrilled, as this would cut a week off the project. I'm a size 28/30 woman (depends on the clothing) with only a C cup chest, so breast support is not something I have a great need for, but I do have a couple of fat rolls at my sides. Is this an automatic "make a corset" proposition then? I think my canvas-lined Venetians did very well for a smooth line when they fit (they're both currently too loose to provide any support) and I will have two gown layers. Anyone here have any experiences with plus-sized late period garb and corsets or the lack thereof?

Undergarments:

Studying corsets and their origins is another one of my passions, and I can tell you with as much certainty as I dare muster about anything without access to a time machine that they did notnotnot NOT use corsets at this point. The bodice of the gown (or the undergown, or both) was stiffened using various techniques, including canvas and buckram. This is true well into the Elizabethan era, and the 'Tudor corset' (read: pre-Eliz) as we know it is a complete fallacy! I haven't looked into the subject of farthingales too much, but 'hoopes from the wast douneward' were mentioned in England as early as 1519. However, you can certainly get the look of the portraits without a farthingale if you use a relatively stiff fabric in your undergown.

Hope this helps.

-E House
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