In a message dated 11/12/2005 8:35:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

It would  be correct for day wear, but might be a bit bright, and 
could be a bit  smoother I think. I usually use "Venetian" a pure wool 
fabric readily  available in England. The original coats I've examined 
are very smooth  wool, Melton being one of the cloths used. Also 
available - v. expensive -  here.)


>I have two Butterick patterns, 3648 and 3723.
>Are  those of any use?
>Or is there a better male pattern?
>Ireally  don't know anything from this period.

Patterns for men can be found in  "Cut of Men's Clothes" (Norah Waugh) 
and Men's 17th and 18th Century  Costume Cut and Fashion, (R.I Davis) 
both English. Then there are the  wonderful American patterns in 
"Fitting and Proper" and "Costume Closeup".  These two also have 
women's patterns. You should also look at "Cut of  Women's Clothes", 
"Period Costume for Stage and Screen 1800-1909", Jean  Hunnisett 
(patterns from original garments in spite of the title) and  "Patterns 
of Fashion 1660-1860" Janet Arnold.




I agree that the blue fabric looks very bright--a dark or midnight blue  
would be better.  Unfortunately, there aren't any really good men's coat  
patterns 
on the market, so your best bet, if you can do it, is the scale pattern  in 
Hill and Bucknell's "Evolution of Fashion"--last time I checked, this book  was 
still available from DramaBooks.  For all that it has some good  patterns, 
"Cut of Men's Clothes" does NOT have an early 19th century men's  coat--just an 
overcoat.
 
If the Butterick patterns you are referring to are the "Regency" ones they  
came out with several years ago, they aren't very good.  And it would have  
been so easy to make them better!  The bodices are all right, but the  skirts 
are 
raised-waist A-line style--looks like they pulled them from the  "bridesmaid 
pattern drawer." Waugh's "Cut of Women's Clothes" does have a  good ballgown 
pattern--the skirt is basically a rectangle back and front, and  gored sides.  
And, yes, it should be smooth across the front, with the  fullness 
concentrated towards the back.
 
Ann Wass

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