Hi Mary,  Becky, and anyone who has any ideas,

I just finished "Nutcracker" before Christmas and Mother Ginger was an extreme 
problem.  I had asked this list for suggestions in mid-November, but only got 
one or two replies about using plastic plumbing pipe.  That is what we ended up 
doing, but the results were less than wonderful.  It is first on my list of 
what to tackle the next time we do it.  Our dancer sat on top of a 4-foot 
aluminum ladder that was not-too-securely attached to a platform on wheels 
(casters).  The panniers were dropped over the ladder, she crawled up the 
ladder and wiggled down in.  They were pinned as securely as we could around 
her waist using upholstery strapping and we also had suspenders attached.  I 
wish we would have thought of the backbrace--good idea!  Then we dropped the 
skirt over her head (which was in several rather poorly connected pieces), an 
apron, bodice with cape sleeves, collar, and she wore an outlandish yellow wig. 
 The panniers were approximately 4' by 7'.  The size was based o!
 n the very cramped back stage space we had in our theater.  We had to be able 
to fit in 14 six to nine-year-old 'Bon-Bons' and also another teenage girl who 
literally pushed the whole contraption on stage from underneath!  Much of this 
was leftover technology from what had been done in previous years when I was 
not with them.  Two of us had to dress Mother in the wings in only the ambient 
light coming from the stage.  It was very, very shaky to say the least and I am 
so glad that we got through a Tech, a Dress, and 3 performances without a major 
mishap.  

You have already given me some new ideas.  I like the idea of the bottom row 
being a C-shape to let the dancers out--but then how did the pipe keep its 
shape and not collapse on itself?  We used plumbing connectors and put 
crosswise braces of pipe at the long ends of the ovals.  It kept the ovals from 
twisting, but it was not enough to keep the panniers from sagging under the 
weight of the skirt.  You mentioned having put upright pipe every 2 feet.  I 
can see that this would give good support, but then how did you get it to bend 
into an oval?  We only used the upholstery strapping to connect the 3 
horizontal rows of pipe.  I knew this was a problem, but we couldn't come up 
with a better answer in the time we had left.  

You mentioned that you thought San Francisco had completely built a stationary 
frame onto a platform.  I'm going to contemplate this one--because this may be 
the sturdiest idea in the long run.  Our greatest problem there would be 
storing it in the off season--costume and prop space in the back of the ballet 
studio is very limited.  Is this link below the Mother Ginger costume you saw?  

http://www.voiceofdance.com/Insights/features.test.cfm?LinkID=31500000000000174

I just love this!  In my research on the 'Net for ideas, this was my absolute 
favorite!  A house for all the children!    

One last question--what kind of movement did Mother make on stage?  Did she 
just roll out on stage in a straight line and then back out?   Did she 
completely cross and go off on the other side?  Did she turn or make any other 
movements?  Our director insisted that Mother turn in a circle once--after the 
children were out.  I'd like to figure out a different method of locomotion 
than a person hidden in the skirts and pushing on all fours!

Hope you all have your creative thinking hats on today,
Thanks,
Kathy



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Hi Becky,
  
  My daughter's ballet school does Nutcracker every year.  They have  a M 
Ginger dress that is large enough to hide about a dozen kids under  it.  You 
said your's is for a play, but it seems like the  construction could be 
similar.  They used the white plastic PVC  pipe used for plumbing to create the 
structure, so that it would be  rigid enough to hold its shape and hold the 
weight of the skirts.   It has a top piece that is oval shape and a bottom 
piece that is a "C"  shape (to allow the children a "door" to come out of), and 
then a few  upright pieces, about every 2 ft?, to hold the two together.  Then  
they used one of those back braces for workers who lift heavy stuff  that has 
suspenders attached.  The skirt frame is attached to that  somehow (I never 
checked it out close up).  Then the M Ginger  dress goes over the whole 
kit-n-kaboodle.
  
  We went to see Nutcracker in San Francisco last month and I noticed  that 
their M Ginger dress frame seems to be on wheels.  The nice  thing about that 
is that it probably takes a lot of weight off of the  person wearing the 
costume and it "glides" across the stage.
  
  I have some pictures, but they don't show the framework.  Let me know if 
you'd like to see them.
  
  HTH,
  ~mary

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Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:08:23 -0500
From: "Becky" 
Subject: Re: [h-cost] robe a la francaise

I have to design a "Mother Ginger" costume for this Christmas play of the 
Nutcracker. I have many ideas from various sites. I see how to make the 
hoops atand out at different angles. I've thought about this since the first 
of December!!!! I work on it in my sleep. I've looked everywhere for a 
pattern to use but so far nothing is as large as I need. BUT some of the 
pictures I've found have been very helpful.
Yours has helped me to see how to put it together. Any suggestions on how to 
make the underpinning hoops or farthingale that is 2-3 yards across? It has 
to be large for that character.







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