Hi,
No i dont think i explained very well what i ment.
I believe they wore a corset, and on top of this corset they had a fitted bodice wich had either large tabs or a shaped peplum. It would be closed center front. On top of these tabs lacing holes in the sides and at the back to attach a small bumroll. It shoould hang about an inch below the high waistline. On top of this, the underskirt or petticoat. Then the dress wich is attached bodice and skirt is hanged over the shoulders, and closed center front with a stomacher. Evolution says its the bodice with the tabs wich is the actually corset, but i dont believe they wore such short stays. I think they used the evolution shapes of the old renaissance stays. We dont know this, as no stays excist from this period. Their posture kind of tells me that they did wear corsets, also the way the breasts are lifted up. The standing collar for this dress in the book, 1625 is made of a rectangle piece of linen wich is pleated into its round shape. The yoke wich is pleated also is then attached to the standing collar and pins in the center front bustline. Because it is bended (yoke) towards the bust, it rises the standing collar very beautifully behind. Cuffs are made the same way rectangle, pleated in shape. And off cause edged with a scalloped lace like the standing band.

Bjarne
----- Original Message ----- From: "Zuzana Kraemerova" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] women costumes from "The three musketeers"


Hmm.... so you think they had a corset with tabs to which the bumroll was attached and over it the dress? So the dress itself should be of two parts - the skirt and the bodice. One thing that remains a mystery to me is this perfect fit of the bodices - I'd say they were at least stiffened with something. [EMAIL PROTECTED] says they were boned. This thing with attaching the bumroll to the tabs of the corset is quite interesting - I've never heard about it before. You know it from the Evolution of Fashion? It's a real pity I haven't got that book. But it's a good tip for buying, thanks:-)) Just one thing - how far on the tabs would the bumroll be, I mean, just at the waist or an inch or two lower? Just to know how to make the waistline of that bumroll.

 Zuzana


 Bjarne og Leif Drews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think they wore a bodice under the dress wich had a peplum or large tabs.
And i would guess there was lacing holes on top of the tabs, to hold up a
small bumroll.
Corsets must have ben worn to give this push up breasts, and smooth bodice.
How they looked like, i really would have loved to see.

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