Re the perception of color in these portraits:
For you who do dyeing (Natural or otherwise) did the color of dyed textiles
of the past change because of exposure to sunlight or was there some
chemical element that was not always stable and would mute or even mutate
over a period of time. In the present world, I have seen color changes on
bolts and even garments that have never seen the light of day go entirely
from one color to another.
For instance, there is a certain grey from the middle of the 20th C, that
seems to change to pink within a 40 yr. span. My daughter"s pale blue
taffeta promgown from the 1990s is now a sort of interesting pale rose. I
have a bolt of rayon velvet from the'70s that is presently an interesting
shade of lavender.
In reference to these portraits under discussion, might the colors on the
canvas have changed, or the garments themselves have been 'changeable'?
kathleen
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Clemenger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Princess Elizabeth
Misremembering happens to all of us! <g> Seriously, though, it could be
two
different copies--I know that some of the portraits of Elizabeth I (as
queen) and her sister, Mary, were done multipe times--there's that great
chapter in QEUnlocked that talks about them. So it could be that,
especially since so many of our details are similar. And maybe it
explains
why some of the reproductions seem so pink and others more orange? I don't
know about "yours"--we only had time for the National Gallery of Art
(which
was on its last day of a Truly Cool Exhibit on Fabric in Portraits), and
didn't make it over to the Portrait Gallery. Well, maybe we could have,
if
I hadn't been making a complete pig of myself in the bookstore. <weg>
I've seen monochrome embroidery done in red in a couple of portraits in my
books, and a little of it in the Textile Rooms at the V&A. A friend of
mine
says it's known as "morisco" work (spelling optional at this time of the
evening ;o) I *think* I've got a copy of a painting of Mary I with red
embroidery somewhere. I *think.* (sorry...bad case of chocolate cravings
paired with knitting fatigue from the Knitting Olympics! LOL!)
--Sue
p.s. I like your Ghandi quote....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Diana Habra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Princess Elizabeth
>
> > When did you see it in the Portrait
Gallery? I was in England in > > 2002,
and
> > saw the painting at Windsor. The dress was screaming pink, no orange
to
> > it
> > at all.
> > The forepart and undersleeves are made of a gold pile/cream base "cut
and
> > voided" velvet, although I suspect that the pile, in this case, is
gold
> > thread (looks distinctly metallic).
> > --Sue, wondering if there are two of them out there....
>
> Hmmm...maybe I was mistaken. I know I saw the Princess Mary Tudor
> portrait while I was there. I thought I saw the Elizabeth one, too.
>
> But seeing the Mary Tudor portrait in person was pretty cool because I
> discovered that her chemise had redwork on
the cuffs! I hadn't heard > of
> redwork before then and the photos I had seen of the painting didn't
have
> enough detail to show it. Very cool!
>
> Diana
>
> www.RenaissanceFabrics.net
> "Everything for the Costumer"
>
> "Become the change you want to see in the world."
> --Ghandi
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