From other sources,I've been told there are narrow straps for the chemise
and kirtle. The jewels are attached to the kirtle. The bodice is cut a bit larger than the kirtle so it pushes against the edge of the jewels. They stay in place that way. One source said that the sleeves are the chemise. Another said not. One said to attach the undersleeves onto a short sleeved kirtle. I bought some vitnage devore velvet for the golden fabric. It looks very similar to the pattern, even more richly in fact. I found a red velveteen fabric that was already quilted with rings where I can place boning for the hoops. Someone suggested that the princess and Queen probably wore a red under garment, since they could afford it. I found a beautiful irriedescent silk for a lining, and it has enough body to it to give some more shape to the skirt. I bought 6 yards of 100% linen for the chemise (and enough for mine as well) I have some white on white brocade for the corsets. I also have some left over canvas for the body of the corsets. I bought real pearls for some of the decorations. I've hit the second hand stores looking for ol pearl necklaces. So far, I have 4 antique ones that I can use. I found a site that told me how to knot the string of pearls. I have a pattern to use for all the parts. I bought the Arnold books, Simplicity patterns gathered from all over and ordered the Jean M of costuming.
I'm washing the fabrics that can be before I start cutting. Some can't be.
I'm cutting out a toile today, from a lightweight undbleached muslin. I got 15 yards at $1.00 per yard if I bought the bolt. I did. I have the pinky/orange jacquard fabric, too. The woven pattern is close enough to the portrait. SOOOO... I'm all set to get started. Stuff is all over my wewing area. But won't it look great when my daughter wears it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimiko Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Princess Elizabeth



You might find this link useful. You can enlarge/decrease the picture by clicking on the + and - symbols, and move around the picture to see details by clicking on the arrows. It's a lovely, clear picture.

http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/eGallery/object.asp?searchText=elizabeth&object=404444&row=4&detail=magnify

Hope this helps.

Joannah


Thanks for sharing that link Joannah. It definitely helped me.

<<--- "Becky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thank you for the description. I still wonder how the sleeves are attached.
There is no strap showing. >>

You know, I have pondered that very question for some time. I understand the kirtle being underneath and the jewels perhaps being attached to it. But some of the images from that time frame, and earlier, show very wide shoulder areas with no apparent strap. Makes me wonder if the undergarments do or do not have straps, and if the outer gown sleeves are simply pinned onto an undergarment, like the kirtle top, and are joined to the gown body at the side area, and hangs from the tightly fitted sleeve top?

I also see that the gown is piped or bound, as there are definite red lines along the bottom of the jewels, and along the edge of the turned back sleeves near the shoulder.

And is it my monitor, or does that red/pink dress have a golden sheen in various areas of the brocade, as if it was an iridescent fabric? I am seeing it at the center front of the body, below the jewel piece, and on the turn back sleeves near the undersleeve. There's even streaks of gold along the edge of the skirt near the front opening.

Kimiko


Kimiko Small
http://www.kimiko1.com
Fresno, CA, USA

"Lady of the Wardrobe" for Isle of Mann Guild
Portraying at California's Central Valley Renaissance Faires
Lady Clifford, Countess of Cumberland
 (Margaret Percy, Eleanor Brandon, or Margaret Russell)

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