Why would the "closed up neckline" be 'verboten'? I wear a high-bodied gown (doublet style) closed all the way up. Made with the proper fabrics (linen for the shift, etc.), it's perfectly comfortable.

Joan in Sacramento, CA

At 07:07 PM 3/28/2006, you wrote:
I'd say a doublet would be your best choice, if it didn't fall into the
verboten "closed up neckline" category.
--Sue

----- Original Message -----
From: "Suzi Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: [h-cost] Images of 16th century ladies.


>
> I have just spent heaven knows how long trying to find an image of an
> English or French woman on the 1570's, who does not have either a
> ruff, or a partlet, or a closed up neckline.
>
> I don't want Italian - I have Moda a Firenze. (and want to make
> something from it, but it would not be right - boo!) I have checked
> the two Clouet databases in the French "Joconde" system, which are
> drool worthy, but unhelpful. I have checked www.marquise.de, "My
> Gracious Silence", Vecellio et al, plus postcards and books till I
> don't know what I am seeing.
>
> I have to make a 6th dress for the court of Mary Queen of Scots, and
> have set a date, arbitrarily, for about 1573 for them all. (5 years
> either way would be fine.) So far all my dresses have partlets, worn
> in various ways, both white and black, and ruffs. I am desperate to
> find something accurate but different. Any help out there?  I know a
> lot of you are interested in this period.
>
> Suzi

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