Thank you all so much - that is extremely useful and practical help :-) I've got PoF coming from the library so will draft from that, but definitely go for the elastic trick and hey, if it's not authentic enough then it ain't my wedgy or me sewing the hooks and bars back on... Looking forward to getting started and posting the photos eventually, Thanks again, Katherine S
********************************************** Message: 3 Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 15:35:50 +0100 From: Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There are good clear patterns in "Cut of Men's Clothes" by Norah Waugh, and in "Patterns of Fashion 1560-1620" by Janet Arnold. You will find the Arnold the most helpful I think. (You can lace the breeches to the doublet on the inside, without the bows showing on the outside, or you can make hooks and bars to join them If your friend is planning on being particularly energetic, a theatre trick worth noting is to sew the hooks on so they hang from a short piece of elastic, sewing them to the doublet, and sew the bars to the breeches - it allows a bit more ease than sewing everything on tight.) Message: 5 Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 16:19:49 +0100 From: "Kate M Bunting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I made a man's civilian suit for myself when I gave up soldiering (to wear when I didn't feel like trailing round in petticoats). I used a borrowed pattern (Merchant Adventurers, I think). The breeches are gathered onto a solid waistband closed with two buttons, and not attached to the doublet (although I know that is correct for the period). I think most of the men in my group wear breeches with a waistband. Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor Message: 6 Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 13:34:02 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, the elastic trick is good. And, if you want that open doublet look with a bit of shirt showing at the waist, the breeches [hosen, really I guess if worn with a doublet] can be just hooked or laced across the back. It occurred to me you can lace to tie it up with elastic, if no one sees it. If you look at an etching ... _http://www.relewis.com/BosseStudio.html_ (http://www.relewis.com/BosseStudio.html) _http://www.relewis.com/BosseStudio.html_ (http://www.relewis.com/BosseStudio.html) ...you'll see how high the doublet waist is. A bit of shirt showing in front [as in the man seated at the easel] just emphasizes this fashion trait. Just linking them in the back would work for this. You'll also see how full the breeches are in the crotch...and if the rise of the crotch seam is sufficient in the back, no wedgies. I don't know if it's period or not but you could cut the waistband wider [higher] CB than in the front. And split it CB with a lace there like in some 18th century breeches. _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
