As I suggested, I can do it SASE.  Our computer equipment isn't quite up to
more sophisticated stuff.  Just supply me with an address.
KSM
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Data-Samtak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] looking for extant late 18c - early 19c stays


> Kathleen,
>
> You pattern sounds good and comfortable.  WOuld you post it somewhere
> to share?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Susan
> "Gentlemen, in the little moment that remains to us between the crisis
> and the catastrophe, we may as well drink a glass of Champagne." Paul
> Claudel
>
> On May 14, 2006, at 4:47 PM, Lloyd Mitchell wrote:
>
> > The one I own is made similar to a sort of 'longline bra.  It is a wrap
> > around with the opening in the front. Of a heavy weight canvas or
> > duck. it
> > offers a more than adequate bust control. Would be glad to share the
> > pattern
> > I have developed with it. SASE.
> > Kathleen
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Beth Schoenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 12:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [h-cost] looking for extant late 18c - early 19c stays
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On 14/05/2006, at 1:07 PM, susannah eanes wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am making one last effort to find an extant set of regency era
> >>> unboned stays (or having only a few bones).  In my travels I have
> >>> seen
> >>> only 4 or 5 of these, and all are very different from one another.  I
> >>> do have one pattern a colleague is sharing for a front-closing
> >>> version, but would really like to find at least 3 good examples that
> >>> could reasonably be made by the average seamstress with a good
> >>> pattern.  If anyone knows of a set in either a private or public or
> >>> any museum collection that we could go & study, that would be really
> >>> nice.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone has access to or can share information on these, I would
> >>> appreciate it.  We are working on this pattern for docent use at a
> >>> living history site c.
> >>> 1800-1815.
> >>>
> >>> thanks for any and all information,
> >>> susannah
> >>> Fig & Folly Historic Patterns
> >>> www.fig-n-folly.com
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi, Susannah,
> >>
> >> The Kyoto Costume Institute sponsored an exhibit many years ago which
> >> travelled the world, called "Revolution in Fashion, 1715-1815."   The
> >> original catalogue from that exhibit has become a seriously expensive
> >> collector's item, has now been re-printed, and, I have heard, is on
> >> the
> >> internet somewhere, although I haven't checked it out personally.
> >>
> >> The catalogue has at least 3 pages of corsetry covering/bracketing
> >> your
> >> period, so I've listed here the two most relevant.     Page 101 (with
> >> description on page 152) shows four corsets from the late 18th C
> >> (three
> >> from 1785, including one child's corset;  and one from 1790).  All of
> >> these pieces have boning in them to some degree, although one has only
> >> a little boning supplementing quilting.
> >>
> >> Page 103 shows three corsets and a brassiere from 1820 or so
> >> (commentary for this page is also written up on page 152, along with a
> >> picture of the brassiere laid out flat).   The 1820 corset is
> >> stiffened
> >> only with cording quilted in.   The other three pieces are dated only
> >> as "early nineteenth century."   The brassiere is described as "boned
> >> at bust" only;  the other two corsets rely only on cord-quilting for
> >> their shapes.
> >>
> >> Page 152 also has a French print of 1809, called "The Fad for
> >> Corsets,"
> >> showing four women being laced into their corsets by their(?)
> >> menfolk.
> >>    The corset shapes are  a bit exaggerated, but the picture is clear
> >> enough to give you some idea of corsetry between the eras represented
> >> by the photo examples.
> >>
> >> There are no credits given for the owners of any of these;  it's
> >> fairly
> >> safe to assume that they all (still) belong to the Kyoto Costume
> >> Institute.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps!
> >>
> >> Beth Schoenberg
> >> --- in warm and overcast autumnal Canberra
> >>
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