This is a point of much confusion by Americans, when in fact it is all really very simple. Several years ago on this very list there was a suggestion that we should create a timeline so we all know what is meant by terms like Victorian. This is funny to me, because the timeline already exists, it being determined by her reign.

A close friend of mine was costuming a ball. It had originally been intended to be set in the American Civil War period, 1860-65. The organizer however decided they would rather have it set in the Victorian period! Hmmmm 1837-1901 seems to encompass the American Civil War to me.

Victoria's reign is a great example of the difficulty of using such measures to define a period. Evenmore so a period of such great change, not only in art and fashion, but all things. Imagine , since this is a cotuming list, just the dress styles alone. Quites a change from the 1830s gowns that I for one dislike through crinolines, hoops, bustles to finally the gowns of the 90s. Another Odd Period name, common here in America, is colonial. What the heck does that mean? Most Americans think of it as being the late 18th century, with the Colonial House being neo-classical, following a very southern idea. Of course the American Colonial Period begins in the 16th century, with Spanish Architecture and could be argued to continue into the 19th century in some places. Spanish and saltbox archetecture is certainly part of "Colonial" architecture.

Ron Carnegie

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"Victorian" is a generalized term, usually used for all things late 19th
century.

But Vicki was queen of England...albeit a rather expansive England. But
still English.

The houses most Americans think of as Victorian are also known as Gothic
Revival or Gingerbread Gothic. But there's also Antebellum [another generalized
term] and Italianate Revival and a whole host of other styles  that are
"Victorian" [her rein does start in the 1830's y'know] but are not generally
thought of that way.

It's the same kinda problem you have with generalized costume period labels.
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