HI,
  There is a small publication from (of all places) Dover Press, the people who 
make all those small craft-y books.
   I bought one called " Charted Peasant Designs from Saxon Transylvania".
  The front part of the book has a 3 page introduction to the contents of the 
items included, as  well as photograhs of actual pieces .
 There is also a bibliography and a map to show where the stiches and designs 
originated and travel to Transylvania  and the time element.
   He talkes aboutt he earlier work of the 12 th century Saxon women "precision 
of stitch,alike on both sides of the linen in pattern and clearness.'
  It's a nice little book, the author is  Heinz Edgar Kiewe  , costs $5.95 , 
Dover 0-486-23425-8 and I got mine thru Wal-marts online book store
  Also available from the same Dover books people are 
   "Blackwork Embriodery" by Elizabeth Gedded and Moyra McNeill  Dover  
0-486-2324-5-x and "Blackwork" by Mary Gostelow  Dover Needlework Series 
0-486-40178-2 .
  Both books have brief histories of the work and Photos of art work showing 
Blackwork and extant pieces ,museum and private collections.
   they are all inexpensive book ,have nice photos  and actual chartes for the 
stiches.
  They maybe 'Kindergarten" books for what you need, but they are worth the look
  Melody
   
   
  Robin Netherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
I am not an embroiderer, and my knowledge of medeival embroidery is
skeletal -- enough to recognize situations in which it occurs, and to know
when to go to others with a question.

This is one of those times. I'm talking with another researcher who's
working with a text reference to embroidery. One possible interpretation
of the reference would be that it describes embroidery that appears on
both the inside and outside of the fabric. To me, that sounds like
something on the line of blackwork, designed to be neat and finished
looking on both the right and "wrong" side, and thus suited to things like
cuff and collar edges that might be turned out.

So, questions:

1. Is my memory correct -- is this indeed a characteristic of blackwork?
Or any other kind of historic embroidery style?

2. Is this characteristic actually documentable to any non-modern
examples? (I know it's easy to assume that a standard definition of a
technique must date back forever, but it might be done differently in
different periods.) If so, how early? I mentally associate blackwork in
particular with the Tudor period, but the reference in this case is about
1400.

3. Can anyone point me to a published source that would document the use
of such a "two right sides" technique to a medieval artifact?

Ultimately my friend would like to have a citation that shows the use of
such inside/outside embroidery from around 1400. Doesn't have to be
blackwork.

Failing that, it would be helpful to have a citation of such a technique
from a later period, even if it's not c. 1400.

Many, many thanks, as always, to the wonderfully helpful people on this
list. I am always amazed by the breadth of knowledge represented here.

--Robin


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