I agree too that the "alternative cut" gives a more portrait look,
although I've only played with both as possible sleeves for Tonner's new
12" Agnes Dreary doll. Now that I have a digital camera, I can take pics
of the project in progress--when I get to doing it--and maybe share
those pics, if anyone on the list might be interested.

You could also try Jean Hunnisett's "Period Costume for Stage and Screen
1500-1800." There is a bell sleeve pattern with an alternative "Lady
Jane Grey" sleeve that is cut on the bias. Now that "Lady Jane Grey"
sleeve should be called "Queen Katherine Parr" as the portrait Hunnisett
adapted it from has been reidentified as the later. 

Hunnisett also has scale patterns of Tudor bodices, foreparts.
Undersleeves, and overskirts.

Cindy Abel

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Beteena Paradise
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:06 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] English Tudor bell sleeves

On page 115 of the Tudor Tailor, there is a pattern/diagram. I
personally think that the "alternate cut" given looks closer to the ones
shown in the portraits you provided.
   
  Good luck!
   
  Teena

Dawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I'm interested in experimenting with this style of gown. Does anyone
know of a diagram that shows the cutting shape of the bell sleeve? The
body of the dress I think I can figure out.

Here are some examples: 
http://englishhistory.net/tudor/monarchs/eliz1-scrots.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/anoria_j/Medieval_images/Lady_Jane_Grey.jpg

http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/redjane.jpg



Dawn

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