As it happens I'm working on a book too, only pesky life keeps getting in the 
way of completion. Sigh.

Anyway, I -DID- run across a rape trial account where the man was convicted 
because he'd had to pull the girl's braies down before he could do the deed. 
Had there been no braies, her status as an innocent in the proceedings would 
have been in question. The reference is buried in the disaster pile of 
research, I'll try to find it this weekend....

I don't think it can be said that all women wore them all the time. But I also 
don't think women never wore them.

Astrida

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of E House
Sent: Thu 9/13/2007 6:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] middle ages: braies for women?
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Laning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
...<< Basically, what I think she winds up saying is that virtually all the 
pictorial examples of women wearing braies in medieval Western Europe turn 
out to fit into one of two themes: (1) mythical women such as the Amazon 
warrior queen Penthisilea; or (2) "who wears the pants in the family" 
arguments between women and men. Neither one of these seems intended as a 
realistic picture of what women actually wore. >>

It's been a while since I've read any of the texts in question, but I seem 
to remember running across quite a few crude gothic-era jokes about women, 
particularly mothers-in-law, falling down stairs or the like and landing 
with their nekkid bum in the air.  The jokes wouldn't have worked nearly so 
well if the women in question were wearing braies...

-E House


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