On Oct 23, 2007, at 6:23 AM, Elizabeth Walpole wrote:
This is not directly clothing related but does anybody know where I
can find a painting that shows the visitation (the bit in the bible
where Mary visits Elizabeth) with a sort of x-ray view where you
can see both the unborn babies (Jesus and John the Baptist) on
their mothers stomachs. From memory it's 14th or 15th century
Italian and I think one mother is wearing pink and the other blue
but I may be mistaken. I was talking to a friend about it but
without an artist or reasonably unique title a google image search
didn't turn up anything useful. To bring this back to clothing, I
think it would be fun to recreate the painting by painting or
printing a picture of a baby onto a dress.
Fortunately or unfortunately for you, there is not just one such
painting -- it's a fairly common theme.
However, my favorite is the one I made a "LOLsaints" picture out
of.... it's here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/claning/1057360496/in/
set-72157601285300832/
(P.S. Safe for work, but not for the humorless.... :)
Now that I look at that one again, it's one of the type where only
one infant, the future John the Baptist, is actually shown. I do have
at least one that shows both infants.
Aha! It's from REALonline <http://www.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/realonline/>
which is an excellent image source for paintings, sculpture, et
cetera in Austria.
Go there, select "Bildthema" from the drop-down menu, and search on
"Heimsuchung Mariens" (without the quotes) and you will get well over
100 Visitation paintings when you click on "Zeige Bilder" ("see
pictures").
The one I have in mind is their picture number (Bildnummern) #000225.
A direct link to just the picture is:
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7000108.JPG
The information on the main site (which uses frames) says as follows:
Tempera on wood, wing panel of an altar. Artist unknown, Upper
Austria, 1490-1500.
Now in the collection of Krems Cathedral, Austria.
Aha, here's another one: http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/
images/7001442.JPG
Another altar wing panel, tempera on wood, by the "Master of the
Pfarrwerfener Altar", probably painted in Salzburg around 1425-1430.
Now in the Museum Carolino Augusteum in Salzburg.
There's an interesting book stand in this one too: a detail is at
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7001444.JPG
Others I saw in a quick run-through:
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7013861.JPG or
picture #012952
Each lady has a gold oval on her belly and I think I can see images
of babies in both.
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7013000.JPG or picture
#012305
This one's especially interesting, with the two babies seemingly
kneeling in the air in front of their mothers.
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7006475.JPG or picture
#008153
(I am sorely tempted to caption this one "MY halo is bigger than YOUR
halo...")
http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7006314.JPG or picture
#004678
This one just has gold stars on both ladies' bellies.
And there are at least a couple more.
The one I made into a LOLsaints icon is also from REALonline, picture
#000907
Direct link: http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7002773.JPG
Yet another altar wing panel, in tempera on wood by Konrad von
Friesach of Kärnten, 1450-1460.
Have fun!
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O Chris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California
+ http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com
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