I've been experimenting with fine needles in various sizes from various makers 
-- the Macculloch page that Suzi posted is mostly John James needles, which are 
quite nice.  My recent experiments have suggested that the S. Thomas & Sons are 
a bit "springier", if you like that in a needle. I've never had the opportunity 
to try the Millward's. Because my eyes are going bad, I have been buying the 
size 10 and size 12 crewel needles, which are fine and have a long eye that is 
easier to poke a thread through. Bjarne, if you are seeking small eyes (on your 
needles) and your *own* eyes are good, go with the plain "sharps" -- 12s are 
really nice and tiny, and the heads should not stick out. "Quilters" are 
shorter, if you like a very short needle.  

A thing that drives me nuts about needles is that while a bigger number means a 
smaller size in general, the series starts over after 12 --  so they get 
smaller from 1-12, then the numbers start over at 13, which is an *immense* 
darner and then they go down again (so a number 18 darner is about the size of 
a number 1 darner; just maddening!) Chenilles and tapestries have immense eyes, 
start at 13 and get smaller down to 26 or 28 -- but a 26 or 28 chenille is 
nowhere near as fine as a 12 sharp. There are some interesting pictures of the 
range of needle sizes within some of the common types here: 
http://www.colonialneedle.com/html/about-needles.html
The page is called "all about needles" but it actually leaves off some of the 
things I most want to know, like what it means when a packet says the size is 
4/8 or 7/9, or why you might want your needles gold or platinum plated, or how 
you can tell what length a needle will be. Perhaps someone on the list will 
enlighten me on those points? ;-)
Best,
Lauren
http://www.timetraveltextiles.com
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From: Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> At 19:35 28/11/2007, you wrote: 
> >Stupid me, it was because i misspelled the name, sorry folks! 
> >But could someone tell me wich are smallest, 5/10 - 3/9 or 7? 
> >Usually not attended to the size nr. cause i just chose the smalles 
> >i could get. 
> >Also heard that you can get extremely fine sharps with the numbers 
> >of 12 according to Inspirations Magazine issue where i am in, there 
> >is an article of the Suzhou embroidery tour that the magazine had. 
> >They use sharps nr 12 and where might i get some of them? 
> >Would it say that a size 8 is finer than a size 7? 
> > 
> >Bjarne who just discovered how stupid i really am, not nowing 
> >anything at all about sewing needles............ 
> 
> I sew with Millwards needles, and the higher the number the finer the 
> needles, so an Embroidery 10, or a Sharp 10 is finer that a 7. You 
> can buy complete packs of 10's in most haberdashery shops here. And 
> in MacCullochs 
> 
> http://www.macculloch-wallis.co.uk/Category.aspx/HandNeedles 
> 
> Suzi 
> 
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