Joseph is the one in the left lower corner in yellow. The Magi in red seems to be a little fancier then the other two. There is always one magi that looks different (Persian, young,...), but this one definitely looks female. A larger picture helps a wee bit. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Don_Lorenzo_Monaco_001.jp g
http://tinyurl.com/2xxo2r Here the young mens garments have two waistline?(A bit blurry) http://tinyurl.com/ytvw4m The retainer in lavender has a liripipe on not a high waisted belt. You can see a lower waistline on him. http://pintura.aut.org/BU04?Autnum=11710&Empnum=0&Inicio=16 In the beheading of St. Catherine,(#19) the man to the far right appears to have it tied a few inches above the natural waistline. But the "Virgin Annunciate" (#24) shows a high waistline. :P Anyway the hair indicates male even if the waistline suggests female. -----Original Message----- > Ah - the third crown is behind the back of the standing guy. Yes, held by a woman (?) who is also holding a sword. My guess is that the Magi are the three bearded men with halos. The one with the blue headwrap seems to be wearing a high-waisted gown and seems to have breasts. No cloak like the three (definite) men are wearing. Notice also the woman holding the sword and crown also has blue gloves, as does the guy with the pointy beard and blue turban & wrap. At first I thought Magi in green held a sword, but it looks more like the lining of his cloak. Interesting painting! -Carol >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Farmer >> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:58 PM >> To: Historical Costume >> Subject: [h-cost] saint/iconography question >> >> We've been looking at this painting >> http://www.wga.hu/art/l/lorenzo/monaco/ador_mag.jpg >> Billed as "Adoration of the Magi" by Lorenzo Monaco ca. 1422 >> >> Are those really the Magi? (The folks with the halos). To >> my *very* untrained eye, they remind me more of saints than >> Magi. The individual in the peach/orange with the blue >> head-wrap reminds me more of The Magdalene rather than one of >> the Magi. >> >> I'm not that good with early 15th c. art or saints >> iconography -- and I know that there are folks on this list >> that are more knowledgeable than I. Half my brain tells me >> that I should just take the painting title at face value and >> go with it, but those 3 individuals aren't like any other >> representations of Magi that I've seen. >> >> Thanks! >> Susan >> ----- >> Susan Farmer >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College >> Division of Science and Math >> http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
