I agree with Alex, definitely a corset if on a human, if on an appropriate manikin, just boning. What kind of manikin will you use? Our fashion department at Phoenix art Museum has all these expensive Kyoto dummies, but none with any proper shape probably prior to the late 17 hundreds. I didn't realize until now that the skirt does stand away from the waist somewhat. At first glance it looked like it was hanging straight down, almost like a closely fitting "loose gown." I think I see the skirt away from the bodice now....Yes definitely a "French Farthingale," easy to make. No drum etc. The head piece. Does the lace stick straight up without apparent support, or is there another piece in black (sort of like the Anne of Cleves headdress) behind it that I can't see? Sg
> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:01:47 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL > PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [h-cost] danish renaissance costumes> CC: > > My two > cents...> I would guess linen coif under the decorated one. I believe it was> > typical to do so.> I think this is a separate skirt and bodice. There is just > a hint of> the tabs at the bottom of the bodice that usually indicates > separates> (sleeves or skirts), which is reinforced by the way the skirt > opens to> show the underskirt.> The neck line/collar reminds me of some late > Elizabethan open> bodice/doublet styles that I've seen in QEWU. I'll look > again tonight> to see if I can pull examples.> I think I can see little > tabs/epaulettes at the armscyes. They don't> look like much more than a inch > or two of a wide ribbon folded in half> and sewn done... at least that's how > I've gotten that look before.> I don't know that I've seen buttons on a > woman's bodice. It always> seems to be lacing in the back opening or hook and > eyes set into the> seams for a front opening. If there were a separate bodice > it could> go either way, but with the way the top opens I'd make it front> > opening.> I haven't seen buttons at the sleeves cuff, during this period.> If > this is going to be worn by a manikin than I would either make the> corset > for the shaping, or bone the bodice so it holds the shape. I> know that my > gowns that I put on a modern manikin or sewing form,> don't look right > without the corset.> if the skirt is heavy enough the bum roll may be enough > since these> skirts don't spread really wide.> > alex> for what it's > worth...> > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Leif og Bjarne Drews> <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> wrote:> > http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/br2.htm> >> > I see that > the coif is not edged with lace, is it a linnen coif she has under the black > pearl embroidered coif, wich shows in the front?> > Would this dress have the > bodice sewed on to the skirt? Or is it seperate?> > Would the neck cut of the > bodice be the same as the white collar? So that the white collar is resting > on a black collar wich belongs to the bodice?> > Do you think the bodice has > epaulettes on the armscyes?> > How is the bodice closed in the front, should > i make black fabric covered buttons?> > Does the sleaves also have buttons at > the wrist?> > I am not going to make the costume compleately with original > underwear, only just make the costume, so that it looks like the portrait.> > > Do you think i need to make a corset to get the right shape?> > Is it enough > support for the skirts just to make a small bumroll?> >> > These are my first > questions for you, the male costume is comming later, they want me to start > with the female costume.> >> > Bjarne> > > _______________________________________________> >> > > -- > "I'm buying this > fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you> know, having to suddenly > make presents for everyone, sickness,flood,> injury, mosquito infestations, > not enough silk in the house, it's> Friday..." ;)> > _______________________________________________> h-costume mailing list> > [email protected]> > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume_______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
