Hi there,

No it isn't only men's clothing.  It also includes women's garments and other 
types of barding; of course the horse barding came before women's clothing in 
the book.  Wonder if that is a comment of the times on how we as ladies rated.  
(he he).

Etiennette
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From: "Sharon Collier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Is it only men's clothes?
> Sharon 
> 
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> Behalf Of Wanda Pease
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:31 PM
> To: Historical Costume
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] looking for scan of Alcega Scholar robe
> 
> Blink, Blink!  Hmmm.  I see I wasn't as plain about this book as I should
> have been if you aren't already familiar.  This book was written by a
> tailor, Juan Alcega, who worked in the 1580's in Spain.  He produced the
> Manual to help young tailor's with their art.
> 
> If you are thinking full sized patterns of the present Butterick  type (I
> think he invented the present type of patterns we buy) this isn't for you.
> These are the pattern pieces laid out on various period widths of fabric
> with the fairly confusing directions (nowhere near as bad as present
> instructions, which I can't follow to save my life :-).  Definitely good to
> have help understanding.
> 
> Juan Alcega was a real tailor who lived and worked in Spain.  The pattern's
> I have blown up to size for my costuming have worked perfectly, once I
> understood how they were put together.  The ones in the actual book and it's
> translation/re-drawing by Mrs. Ruth Bean are to scale.  This means I can
> decide that a "barra" is 36" (give or take a bit it was) and the Scholar
> Robe fits a man 5'10" perfectly.  It also looks exactly like the paintings.
> 
> A quick way of seeing what I'm talking about is to look at the Janet Arnold:
> the Cut and Construction of Clothes for Men and Women: 1560-1620.  In the
> first few pages you will see one of these patterns and the illustration of a
> man wearing that robe.  The entire book is patterns of that type.  Certainly
> you can make one of the Spanish middle class outer garments from these.
> They aren't court garments, nor are they "underwear" other than a
> farthingale and possibly a chemise (I have to look at my tattered copy of a
> the original I made so I could put markings on the patterns).  No ruffs, no
> corsets.  A tailor wouldn't be making these.
> 
> Regina Romsey
> 
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> > Behalf Of Sharon Collier
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:53 AM
> > To: 'Historical Costume'
> > Subject: Re: [h-cost] looking for scan of Alcega Scholar robe
> >
> >
> > Is this 16th century? If so, I'd love to have one.
> > Sharon Collier
> >
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