At 13:33 28/04/2008, you wrote:
>Hanna Zickermann wrote:
> > You´re welcome. The picture is taken from the
> > British Museum MS. No. D. IX. (late fifteenth
> > century).
>
>That's what Houston says, but that's not a recognizable MS shelfmark for the
>British Museum. As far as I know, all 
>manuscripts there have a collection name
>as part of the shelfmark (Harley, Royal, Cotton and its many subsets, etc.).
>Plus Houston doesn't give a folio number, so you 
>might as well whistle as find
>that thing. I've never seen it ... and I've looked, having been interested in
>her supposed "archway armhole" for many years. (Frankly, I don't think that
>straight sleeve cap will work in most fabrics, maybe none at all, without
>pinching deeply in front and back of the shoulder joint.)
>
>I do know it's not London, British Library Royal 1 D. ix, which is
>Anglo-Saxon. So is MS Cotton Junius D. ix, I believe. Could be MS
>Royal 18 D. ix, which is an illuminated Bible of 
>Edward IV, from 1479 Bruges,,
>but I've only seen a page or two from it, not enough to guess if the style
>matches up with Houston's drawing. There's also 
>MS Nero D. ix., the Romance of
>Sir Jehan de Santre, 15th c., which looks promising though I've seen only one
>image from it.
>
>You can find Houston's text here:
>http://books.google.com/books?id=Z430bgXpeUgC
>
>Go to "Preview this Book" and look at p. 140 for the quotation, 141 for the
>pattern diagram, and 142 for her redrawing of the picture.
>
> > There´s also "The Depositon from the
> > Cross" by Gerard David (1460-1523) in the
> > National Gallery, London, which has similar cut
> > armholes but no seam at the waist.
>
>That's also what Houston says. Oddly, out of a huge pile of books on Flemish
>art and loads of images of David's, I have only one image of this one, and
>it's not clear enough to show the seams. Ditton 
>the several online versions. I
>presume the seams in question are on the lady in the light blue dress at the
>lower left.
>
>I surely must have seen the picture in person, 
>but I don't have a slide of it,
>and I frankly don't remember the seams ... and you'd think I would have.
>
>--Robin


I will be going to an exhibition at the National 
Gallery in a couple of weeks, so I'll see what I 
can find in the appropriate gallery.

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