I don't remember a detailed treatment of the David gown... though I  
think it may be referenced somewhere on Drea's site (or we talked  
about it in her first Costume Classroom offering on women's dress,  
back in 2001...?).  If you mean the "Bruegel sleeve," we discussed  
this off-and-on for several years on the RenCostumer list [from at  
least 2002 through the first half of 2005].  Unfortunately, that list  
has gone dormant and when I search for the old personal websites  
where people had posted their findings, I only get junk.

If there are any other former RenCostumers on this list, they might  
remember more about it.
Suzanne

On Apr 28, 2008, at 11:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> From: Saragrace Knauf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: April 28, 2008 10:51:03 AM CDT
> To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [h-cost] Sleeve construction: Was Detroit Inst Art -  
> Problems & Where was this from again.
>
> Got the link to work- Thanks.
>
> When studying to make my model of these (Breughel)  jackets, I  
> interpreted the sleeve to actually set into an arm hole.  I see  
> that it could also be interpreted without.  I just went on the  
> "majority" rules - even within this painting the similar fashion is  
> shown with a round armhole on women's clothes.  Most of the men's  
> also are set into a round hole.
>
> Now I gotta get my hands on a good copy of the "Deposition .." by  
> Gerard David.....Curious about the no waist seam...
>
> In my memory, someone had done a pretty detailed evaluation of this  
> gown, or at least the issue on a website somewhere....anyone  
> remember?Sg

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