At 17:24 15/05/2008, you wrote: > >> If there were tie on pockets *before* the 1700s, well, it certainly > >> could be possible, after all, these pockets couldn't have > >> spontaneously appeared in the year 1700. :) > > >There are pockets in 16th C. Italian Paintings -- there just aren't... > >Yes, Allesandro Allori frescoes show several. Very practical & >unadorned; they dont appear embroidered, one appears to have some sort >of braid covering a possible seam line. The pockets are not shown on >principal characters in the frescoes, instead they are on the birthing >room staff, for example. Look for the gals with their sleeves rolled >up. > > >any extant pockets that I know of -- although, niggling in the back of > >my brain is an extant pocket that dates from pre-1650. > >Museo del Traje, there is a 1575-1600 pocket in silver? gold? bullion >on formerly white silk. Unknown provenance. Perhaps someone reads >Spanish better than I do. Check their website & look for "bolsa" and >"indumentaria histórica".
There is a basic English language version of the web site, which makes it easier to find things. The "Bolso" is in the "Jewellery and Accessories" part of the site. (The search thingy is case sensitive.) Suzi _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
