Ha on me! Just showed this to my husband. His immediate reaction? Of course it's Victorian, that's a metal engraving. (Not before 18thC, used extensively in Victorian period.)

He also opined that there probably is a real painting something like this, and that most of the odd bits could eventually be identified as things that the Victorian copyist didn't really understand when s/he looked at the original. We see it all the time when we compare Norris drawings to originals. (N puts in lines that looked like seams to him; to us they look like folds or shadows; and our opinions are often validated by surviving period garments or other representations of the period originals he was looking at.)

If our hard-disc wasn't currently hors-de-combat we might even be able to find the original; Himself has been collecting examples of originals and Victorian renditions.

Chimene

Robin wrote:
... it's something that you pick up after looking at lots and lots of images from the periods in question.


Absolutely agree with this!

A quick way to get a feel for this would be to go to your nearest library and pull together two piles: costume surveys that are photographic collections of period images (like Millia Davenport and Francois Boucher), and another pile of Victorian histories of costume (like Braun & Scheider, Planche, Fairholt, Racinet, or Norris) -- whatever you can find. Be sure to check both the Reference and circulating shelves. (Hmm, coffee-table medieval period survey books may also be helpful; many of them are copiously illustrated with photos of period images; Ref collection for these.)

Then just sit down and compare. Pick a particular place or period and check it in each book, first the period originals; then the Victorians. If you already have a visual sense (of anything), this will work faster, but enough exposure should eventually work for anyone.

You can sort of do this on-line, but there you have more work to do to verify the periodicity of your non-Victorians; it would probably be easier to start at the library.

Oh yes, just because a survey of costume is more recent (ca. 1960 to present) doesn't mean it will be more reliable than Davenport or Boucher. Their strength, in spite of their ages, is that neither one does RE-DRAWING, they both do photographs of period portraits, drawings and paintings.

And don't EVEN consider looking in the theatrical costuming section. Some of what you will find there is better than others, but even the best have a central focus that is something other than authenticity!

have fun!  Chimene
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