That thingie is a "clarion" - a horn.  Know I've seen that drawing
before, but darned if I can find it in my Norris (know it's gotta be in
there though...)

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Maggie
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:59 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] (no subject)

Definitly from Norris. I'm sure the item has a heraldic name, but I'm no
herald. It's probably in the text, though. Just find a copy of Norris's
Medieval volume (in english) and start digging! :)

MaggiRos



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On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Saragrace Knauf <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> I think these are reproductions out of Norris, Kohler or one of the books
> they copied from, but I do have a question about the gown (0br.9 Pánská
> houpelande )on this page:
>
> http://www.kostym.cz/Cesky/III_14_03.htm
> Does anyone recognize the original painting from which this might have
been
> derived?  I am interested in the pattern on the fabric which is reproduced
> up in the the left hand corner.....
> I'd be curious to find out if it really existed in a painting somewhere.
> Sg
>
>
>
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