YMMV ♫ Chiara Francesca « Ehi Prof.! Che cosa facciamo stasera?» « Quello che facciamo tutte le sere, Mignolo: tentare di conquistare il mondo! » (hint: italian)
> -----Original Message----- > From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] > On Behalf Of Laurie Taylor > Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:36 PM > To: 'Historical Costume' > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Holkeboer book - patterns question - long > > Hi, > > Actually, I don't see this book using rectangles and triangles nearly > as much as was really done, but for my purposes right now, that doesn't > matter. Grading patterns is no problem either, especially when it's > the Greek and Roman stuff. > > > Laurie Taylor > > (480) 560-7016 > > www.costumeraz.blogspot.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] > On Behalf Of Chiara Francesca > Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:21 PM > To: 'Historical Costume' > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Holkeboer book - patterns question - long > > When I first started to use this book I quickly realized that it was > neither a quick nor dirty way to making costumes really. (But we say it > is so that we can get new folks learning how to make costumes the best > way possible and inspire them to learn the accurate way later on.) > > If you do not know how to resize patterns then you need to learn how to > do it first. > > The thing that makes it simple to many of us however is that they use > the theory of rectangles and draping to make everything. :) > > ♫ > Chiara Francesca > « Ehi Prof.! Che cosa facciamo stasera?» > « Quello che facciamo tutte le sere, Mignolo: tentare di conquistare il > mondo! » > (hint: italian) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume- > boun...@indra.com] > > On Behalf Of Laurie Taylor > > Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 4:05 PM > > To: 'Historical Costume' > > Subject: [h-cost] Holkeboer book - patterns question - long > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm looking at the Holkeboer book, Patterns for Theatrical Costumes. > I > > do > > understand that the book is intended for theatrical use where down- > and- > > dirty > > is so often the rule of the day. However, I am looking at the first > > three > > sections of historical patterns - Egyptian, Greek and Roman, with the > > idea > > of these being (or not) a reasonable jumping-off point to cut lengths > > for > > hopefully accurate reproduction of the basic garments of those > > cultures. My > > students are going to get the fun of being handed these lengths and > > trying > > to figure out how to wrap the long pieces to get the correct effect > as > > well > > as how to tie the ribbons or belts on the Greek chitons. > > > > The book states that the patterns are in 1/8 scale, with a few in > 1/16. > > I > > grabbed a ruler and calculator and did all the math on those first > > sections. > > > > This is what I came up with for yardage for the main pieces in each > > cultural > > group. These would all be approximate amounts with some flexibility > as > > suited available fabrics. > > > > Egyptian > > Man's Kalasiris 48" x 3 1/3 yards > > Man's Schenti 22" x 2 2/3 yards > > Woman's Sheath 28" x 3 1/8 yards > > Woman's Kalasiris 64" x 3 2/3 yards > > > > Greek > > Man's Chiton/Exomis 36" x 2 1/2 yards > > Man's Himation 48" or 72" x 4-6 yards > > Woman's Doric Chiton 1 76" x 74" > > Woman's Ionic Chiton 64" x 6 1/8 yards > > Woman's Gathered Chiton 64" x 6 1/8 yards > > Woman's Doric Chiton 2 88" x 2 2/3 yards > > Woman's Himation 60" x 4 yards > > Woman's Narrow Himation 24" x 4 yards > > > > Roman > > Man's Toga (cut oval) 72" x 6 1/4 yards > > Man's Tunic 48" x 2 1/8 yards > > Man's Paenula 58" x 3 3/4 yards > > Man's Lacerna 38" x 2 1/2 yards > > Woman's Stola 60" x 6 2/3 yards > > Woman's Palla 60" x 4 yards > > > > Man's Dalmatica 64" x 2 5/8 yards > > Woman's Dalmatica 60" x 4 1/8 yards > > > > Of course, as long as no stitching is done to a cut length, it could > > well > > double for different pieces amongst the cultures, i.e. the Greek > > woman's > > chitons and the Roman woman's stola could be done from the same > piece. > > > > So, do any of these lengths seem too long for the garment in > question? > > The > > Roman woman's stola seemed like an awful lot of fabric to me, even > > understanding the light weight of the period fabrics. I did use 1/8 > as > > the > > scale for all of the patterns where 1/16 was not specified. The > width > > of > > the fabric most often corresponds to the length of the garment on the > > body, > > with the yards amount being somehow wrapped around the body. > > > > I have tons of fabric to play with, or to permit students to play > with, > > so > > we can do a lot of this. I'm going to cut a few specific pieces > which > > will > > even get some non-period trim stitched on as a substitute for the > > embroidered or woven designs on the ancient garments. > > > > Also, does anyone know if there's a connection between Katherine > > Strand-Evans and Katherine Strand Holkeboer? Just curious. > > > > Laurie Taylor > > > > (480) 560-7016 > > > > www.costumeraz.blogspot.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
